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Not a nice place

  • 17-08-2007 10:30am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭


    Button is good, 23/16/2.2, no real history
    UTG+1 is 30/3/2.5, and SB is 52/3/2 idiot

    I don't like my hand but I had the nuts preflop dammit

    Also turn check= good/bad?

    Stack sizes:
    Van Dice: $525.90
    UTG+1: $400
    CO: $434.50
    Button: $892.90
    SB: $363.70
    BB: $1577.50


    Pre-flop: (6 players) Van Dice is UTG with Ah As
    Van Dice raises to $14, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.


    Flop: 6c Kh 2h ($60, 4 players)
    SB checks, Van Dice bets $50, UTG+1 folds, Button calls, SB folds.


    Turn: 7h ($160, 2 players)
    Van Dice checks, Button bets $145, Van Dice...


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    Reasoning behind the check?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    I would call now, since might still have the best hand and the best draw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,956 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    I would call now, since might still have the best hand and the best draw.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Why did you check????

    As played, I call. He might simply be trying to take the pot from you after you showed weakness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    to avoid getting blown off the nut draw, to under rep our hand, to let him bluff the scare card, etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭Macspower


    Reasoning behind the check?

    I like the check.....

    If the reasoning was to get him to bet with a worse hand then you've achieved the objective... call


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    i would call now and c/f the river barring a read, I would open shove a heart or ace river


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    Reasoning behind the check?
    valor wrote:
    to avoid getting blown off the nut draw

    Main problem here I think is that my hand is pretty well defined anyway, I've raised UTG and bet into a 4-way pot with 2 very loose players who like to call. I'm not c-betting missed hands here.
    If the hand was heads up I have a monster, and imagine the button can be floating a lot, but floating in this spot would be fairly retarded given check-call is very likely from SB and then moron #2 sees a big pot and only $50 back to him.
    As he has to put me on a strong hand, he has to have a very strong hand or draw, think he almost certainly raises set though. A flush draw seems to make up most of his range here, or KQ

    When he bet the turn so strongly, I think he has a small/middle flush almost always, betting KQ so big doesn't make any sense. Could have KxQh I suppose.

    Anyway I think I have to check/fold this river whenever I don't hit an A or heart. Which is at least 78% of the time. The A may or may not be good, I can hit and still lose stack. Heart is obviously great but if I hit, and shove, I don't think I get called often.
    Other good scenario is check/check on river when he has KQ or something, I don't think his turn bet is consistent with any one pair hand though.

    Odds and implied odds are terrible, so I folded. Cue outrage and abuse lol


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