Tipping

Jim_Are_Great

Without wanting to get all Reservoir Dogs, does anybody else think that being expected to pay 10% tips for service is unreasonable? I mean, as a reward for an exceptional job, I can see the point; but a no-choice situation? For the birds, that's what I say. I'm not talking about restaurants that slap on the mandatory service charge, I'm referring to the expectations where voluntary tipping is concerned. Especially when the obligatory "cheapskate" label is whipped out whenever these views are publicly aired.
Codswallop.

MooseJam

want a tip ? don't take money from strangers, works for me every time

Terry

FFS.
I'm going to bed.

BrandonBlock

Society says we should tip these guys here, but not these guys over here. Its bull****.

bohsman

I blame the Roma.

biko

Travel and/or join a society.
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DemocAnarchis

Lol look at this quote i found

Nice Guy Eddie: C'mon, throw in a buck!
Mr. Pink: Uh-uh, I don't tip.
Nice Guy Eddie: You don't tip?
Mr. Pink: Nah, I don't believe in it.
Nice Guy Eddie: You don't believe in tipping?
Mr. Blue: You know what these chicks make? They make ****.
Mr. Pink: Don't give me that. She don't make enough money that she can quit.
Nice Guy Eddie: I don't even know a ****ing Jew who'd have the balls to say that. Let me get this straight: you don't ever tip?
Mr. Pink: I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.
Mr. Blue: Hey, our girl was nice.
Mr. Pink: She was okay. She wasn't anything special.
Mr. Blue: What's special? Take you in the back and suck your dick?
Nice Guy Eddie: I'd go over twelve percent for that.

Laslo

I tip in restaurants. Why would I tip anyone else? Taxi drivers for example, who probably earn a whole lot more than I do. We're becoming more and more Americanised over here and I don't like it (tipping, political correctness, judgemental and moral guardianship of everything, etc.)

arybvtcw0eolkf

How original, a thread on tipping :rolleyes:





















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Jim_Are_Great

Oh, sorry. I didn't know I had re-opened an unwanted can of worms. I was just bored.

dade

saw a sign in Florida on an English chip shop stating it was customary to tip between 15 and 20% FFS i thought it was 10-15.

most nights when we had dinner the bill came to about $45 so we all (4 of us) through in $4 and if the service was good, ie refills without asking and offering desert Menus without asking then we through in $2 each. course some silly cow rushed us through the meal offered no refill or desert so she got SFA. should have seen the look on her face, it was like i'd just sacraficed her first born or something

Colonel Sanders

I never automatically tip. I have had huge argumens with my girlfriend over it and been called all sorts of names. If I get really good service I'll tip but no other time. I hate hearing taxi drivers moan that 'the fare came to €19 and the bo llix wanted his euro change'. How many times has said taxi driver been in tesco/dunnes and the bill came to roughly €19? How many times has he told the check out person to keep the change? Never would be my guess.

I have never heard a logical argument for automatic tipping in Ireland. Some argue its 'personalised service'. Estate agents, insurance brokes and travel agents provide personalised service to customers but aren't tipped. I used to live with a girl from New Zealand who got a job in a cafe in Dublin. She couldn't believe how much she was making in tips. She told me that at home no one would tip. I asked her was that really true and she said 'of coure, why would someone tip me for just doing my job?'.

Nature Boy

I never really tip. I don't see why i should, if waiters don't get paid enough then it's the restaurant's responsibility to pay it not me. Same goes for taxi drivers, if they feel they're not getting enough then raise the fare.

tampopo

Yeah, fully covered here


www.bitterwaitress.com

from an American viewpoint. Click on Forums.
They used to have an STD, a ****ty tipper database. And it was HUGE. Every personality, celebrity, sportsman etc who stiffed wait staff. I used to live in America and didn't recognise half them (though it was some years ago)

Giblet

Remember that in America, the wages are lower because they are expected to make the rest up in tips. That's not the case here. Sure i'll give a little extra if they deserve it, but you are charged a service charge in most places.

And tipping taxi drivers? No way.

Creamy Goodness

in america, yes, waiter/esses are only like the likes of $5 - if even - a hour.

i don't care how cheap america is you can live on that.

over here in ireland though, they can feck off especially taxi drivers.

Caliden

If they do a good job and constantly check if everything is ok then I'll tip depending on the price of the meal. If they are slow, dont ask if everything is ok or if I'd like another drink and have a face like a bulldog eating a wasp then I wont tip. Simple as.

FlutterinBantam

+1

keefg

I was with a group of people in New York years ago ('94 ish) and 4 of us went to a well known burger type restaurant (think of Arnie / Stallone & Willis ) and the bill for 4 of us came to about 100 bucks (for a 'kin burger :mad: ) so we left the guy about 15 bucks tip.

Norm 15% ish tip right?? Wrong.......the place was packed so we just left the cash on the table and left....we were about three stores away from the place when the waiter came out of the restaurant and chased us down the street asking for more money because we didn't leave a good enough tip!!

I shall let you use your imagination as to our reply

Giblet

I don't want to use my imagination!

Mossy Monk

I tip no one.

Demonique

Waiting staff in Ireland get paid at least minimum wage, whereas waiting staff in America get only paid something along the lines of $2-3 per hour as they are expected to make the rest of their wage up in tips, yet Irish waiting staff seem to expect that because their colleagues in America receive 15-20% tips they are also entitled to the same

Wishbone Ash

Nature Boy wrote:

Same goes for taxi drivers, if they feel they're not getting enough then raise the fare.

Taxi drivers don't set the fare. It's done by the Commission for Taxi Regulation.

Sawa

I ordered a Dominoes pizza deal the other day and it came to €10, I had a tenner and some change, came to about 0.50cent so I gave the delivery guy that also. But he gave it back to me and I said, no that's for you. He said he didn't want it!

Nature Boy

Probably wasn't good enough for him!

swiss

This thread has made me think about my attitude towards tipping. I would usually throw in a few extra euro in a restaurant because socially it is expected to tip. Personally though, I would consider it the responsibility of the restaurant owner/manager to pay the employees a fair wage, and include that as part of the cost of the meal. I mean, I'm already covering the restaurants costs (including profit) when I pay for my meal, why shouldn't that cover the cost of service?

In America, as I understand it, it is considered downright rude to not tip or leave an insufficient tip. I don't want that situation to evolve here, and I'm beginning to think that a tip should be a privilege given for excellent service, as opposed to some kind of presupposed requisite.

Colonel Sanders

swiss wrote:

In America, as I understand it, it is considered downright rude to not tip or leave an insufficient tip. I don't want that situation to evolve here, and I'm beginning to think that a tip should be a privilege given for excellent service, as opposed to some kind of presupposed requisite.

Pretty much it in a nutshell. Its not as if the restaurant owner is doing you a favour by reducing the price of a meal so that the extra money can be passed onto his staff. Eating out is one of the biggest rip offs in this country. If people in what would be defined 'tipable jobs' aren't happy with the wage they receive there are plenty of jobs out there.

Was in a pub on friday night and one of the waitresses dropped our drinks down. My girlfriend tipped her and gave me a filthy look for NOT tipping. I asked her how many times a barman said to her something along the lines of 'Sit down and I'll drop it down to you'. I asked her how many times she tipped the barman for that. The answer, unsurprisingly, was never.

DemocAnarchis

I'd disagree about the plenty of jobs out there part. Over the summer months, the vast majority of waiting staff are students. I spent over a month looking for work in my home town this summer and last, and the only work i could eventually find was waiting, because nobody wanted to do it.

I currently work as a waiter im a hotel. Its a ****e job, but I dont expect to be tipped for it. If the place is a bit quiter, I can be a bit more attentive to customers, but its usually mental so there just isnt the chance. I make about 5-10 euro a week in tips, so it certaintly isnt the veritable goldmine its sometimes made out to be. It covers my taxi fair for one shift, so it does help, but its not something i've come to depend on or expect.

One point i might make about restaurant work is that the hours are a lot more unpredictable than a lot of jobs. I might be rostered for 30 hours, but only work 22- staff will frequently be sent home if it isnt busy enough and the place can run without them. Tips in this respect help you to cope with the unpredictability.

With regards to tipping myself, I would tip a few quid if out for a decent meal and the service was good, because I know how much its appreciated. I never tip if the service is poor or if i feel im expected to, because I know that I wouldnt expect to be tipped in that kinda situation either.

Degag

Sawa wrote:

I ordered a Dominoes pizza deal the other day and it came to €10, I had a tenner and some change, came to about 0.50cent so I gave the delivery guy that also. But he gave it back to me and I said, no that's for you. He said he didn't want it!

Because its insulting to give somebody 50c... fair enough its 5% of the bill but as a barman myself i know that i'd rather get nothing at all than some measly bit of change... I remember some german paid me for a pint one time, i gave him his 20c coin in change which he told me to "half". He then gave me a 10c tip! He was very lucky not to get it pegged back at himself....

arybvtcw0eolkf

Giblet wrote:

And tipping taxi drivers? No way.

Why?..


What if the driver rounds down the fare, or have you ever checked?.

Duggy747

Well, considering I order my food, eat it, and then proceed to leg it out the window without paying I tend not to leave any money for anyone.......unless it falls out of my pocket during the chase, then anyone can have it.

big b

At restaurants I use regularly, I leave a decent tip.
I reckon it's worth it for the extra effort you'll get from the waiter/waitress.

At a place I'm likely to only visit once, or very occassionaly, I'll leave somewhere between rounding up to the nearest fiver and a decent tip, depending on how good the service was. Unless the service was poor, in which case they get nowt.

I know estate & travel agents etc. also provide a personal service, but in their case, if you're not happy with the service you're getting, it's a damn sight easier to get up & go elsewhere. If the grub is good enough in a restaurant, you're likely to stay even if the service is lazy & uninterested.

So long as you can afford it, I don't see the problem with giving a waiter/waitress a little thank-you for taking better care of you than the absolute minimum required.

Steve_o

I generally only tip if i'm happy with the service, i.e. the waiter/waitress was friendly and on the ball, the pizza was on time etc. other than that, why should i pay for something thats sh*t, i.e. the opposite of what i just said! I say away with being forced to tip, i tip if i want to and thats it!!!