Dark beers - and Budvar Dunkel in particular

Imposter

Anyone here a fan of the Dunkel beers?
I'm not really sure of all the brandnames but i've not tasted a bad one yet.
Budvar, Konig Ludwig, Hirter Morschl and of course Leffe Bruin are the ones I remember.

Has anyone had the pleasure of tasting Budvars dark beer yet?
Just seen it in the last few weeks over here so maybe it hasn't got to Ireland yet. Really nice beer, like most dark beers kinda tastes like guinness but without the creamy head. Tis my favourite at the moment and costs a whopping 89c a bottle over here

JIZZLORD

I've had erdinger dunkel on several occasions, and i had another one or two different ones, but their names have escaped me. i've never heard of a dunkel from budvar, it sounds interesting.

Imposter

Erdinger Dunkel is a dark Weißbier (see here).

The beers I am talking about are dark beers. In germany they are often called Black beers (see here)

Anyone who has been in the hofbrauhaus has probably also seen them!

oblivious

Try getting your hands on some Schwarzbier, very nice

Thrasher

Leffe Bruin is a Belgian abbey beer, in the style of a Dubbel. Lovely beer (if not up to the standard of Westmalle's original), but since this is an ale, definitely not a Dunkel.

Konig Ludwig is very nice.

oblivious

Sorry it’s not a Dubbel, it’s been a long time since Leffe has been associated with an abbey.

BeerNut

oblivious wrote:

Sorry it’s not a Dubbel, it’s been a long time since Leffe has been associated with an abbey.

Leffe is still associated with an Abbey (Leffe Abbey), but like all abbey beers this is just a stylistic and marketing thing: it's not made at the abbey, or by monks or any of that. Dubbels are generally made by Trappist monks at actual abbeys and are therefore not abbey beers

Leffe Bruin is definitely not a dunkel.

oblivious

When I meant associate, I mean more than just paying a fee for the use of the name

That site was looks like Leffe was trying to give off a Trappist feel to it

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Imposter wrote:

The beers I am talking about are dark beers. In germany they are often called Black beers (see here)

The Black Beers are delicious.

I drank a lovely one in New Zealand called Monteith's.

Man, I wish I could have just one more bottle of that.

BeerNut

oblivious wrote:

When I meant associate, I mean more than just paying a fee for the use of the name

Yeah, I was just being a git.

DesF wrote:

I drank a lovely one in New Zealand called Monteith's.

It's not bad. Monteith's have starting making a lager for the UK market now, so we'll probably see it over here before long.

Mind you, I'd sooner have a Speight's Old Dark than anything from Monteith's.

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BeerNut wrote:

Mind you, I'd sooner have a Speight's Old Dark than anything from Monteith's.

I never came accross that in my time in NZ. I wasn't a fan of their flagship Gold Medal Ale at all though.

BeerNut

DesF wrote:

I never came accross that in my time in NZ. I wasn't a fan of their flagship Gold Medal Ale at all though.

No. Who would be? Most of their beers are pretty boring, but the Old Dark is fantastic, as was the Chocolate Ale they were doing on special at the brewery tap, which I think was just Old Dark with chocolate in.

Did you try any of the Emerson's beers? I found them to be consistently the best performers among kiwi beers.

kenmc

For sure, Emersons was definitely the best beer I found down there, base in Dunedin. He's deaf and dumb by the way, a bit of trivial for you! I found a pub just off the octegan in dunedin which had about 4 emersons on tap, a london porter, weiB, may even have had an irish red too. Delicious.
Wannaka beerworks do some nice beers too, one of them was a black beer.
Monthiets do a range of seasonal ales, the golden summer ale was delicious. And when I was in the brewery they had a guest ale on which had been designed by a novice brewer, it was fan bloody tastic. I drank about 6 pints of the stuff whilst talking crap! Their baltic porter was also really nice.

BeerNut

kenmc wrote:

Wannaka beerworks do some nice beers too, one of them was a black beer.

Long Black. Yes, I liked that.

kenmc wrote:

Monthiets do a range of seasonal ales, the golden summer ale was delicious.

It was the Winter Ale when I was there, and I was hugely disappointed with it. Needs more Christmas cake. Oh wait: Christmas is in summer, perhaps that explains it...

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I've never heard of any of these other beers.

That's it, I'm definitely going back to NZ, soon.

BeerNut

DesF wrote:

I've never heard of any of these other beers.

My inconsequential and inconclusive ramblings about the beers of New Zealand can be found here, here, here and here.
Blogging: it's way better than remembering stuff.

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BeerNut wrote:

My inconsequential and inconclusive ramblings about the beers of New Zealand can be found here, here, here and here.
Blogging: it's way better than remembering stuff.

Thanks a lot.

Nice reading there.

donaghs

Just got some Dark Budvar in McHughs on Kilbarrack Rd last night. Quite tasty. I think the best dark beer I've had was the German Köstritzer Schwarzbier I got in Redmonds, Ranelagh. The Budvar has a lighter taste, but has its own merits.

oblivious

donaghs wrote: »

I think the best dark beer I've had was the German Köstritzer Schwarzbier I got in Redmonds, Ranelagh. The Budvar has a lighter taste, but has its own merits.

Very nice all right

JIZZLORD

i had some of the budvar dunkel a few weeks ago at a beer festival. better than the regular stuff imo.