2 $50NL Hands.

coillcam

I'd appreciate comments on all steets in no. 1

1.

GAME #622289457: Texas Hold'em NL $0.25/$0.50 2007-08-09 18:02:24
Table Chilliwack
Seat 1: DidIt4Fun ($63.50 in chips)
Seat 3: luckerman ($55.00 in chips)
Seat 5: coillcam ($49.00 in chips)
Seat 6: drugsta ($49.95 in chips) DEALER
Seat 8: filthivey ($76.80 in chips)
filthivey: Post SB $0.25
DidIt4Fun: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to coillcam [CJ DJ]
luckerman: Fold
coillcam: Raise $2.00
drugsta: Fold
filthivey: Fold
DidIt4Fun: Call $1.50
*** FLOP *** [H3 S9 H6]
DidIt4Fun: Check
coillcam: Bet $3.00
DidIt4Fun: Raise $9.00
coillcam: Call $6.00
*** TURN *** [DK]
DidIt4Fun: Check
coillcam: Check
*** RIVER *** [S2]
DidIt4Fun: Check
coillcam: Bet $8.00

I feel he has an unfilled combo draw 78h, 98h or Ah9h here often enough to value bet.....
comments:


Same table a few mins later villain is 18/14/3 over 200, haven't seen anything remarkable from him/her yet.

2.

GAME #622309285: Texas Hold'em NL $0.25/$0.50 2007-08-09 18:24:38
Table Chilliwack
Seat 1: DidIt4Fun ($50.00 in chips)
Seat 3: luckerman ($62.05 in chips)
Seat 5: coillcam ($66.35 in chips)
Seat 6: drugsta ($50.00 in chips)
Seat 8: filthivey ($115.05 in chips) DEALER
Seat 10: DonDeal ($48.25 in chips)
DonDeal: Post SB $0.25
luckerman: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to coillcam [C10 D10]
DidIt4Fun: Sitout
coillcam: Raise $2.00
drugsta: Raise $7.00
filthivey: Fold
DonDeal: Fold
luckerman: Fold
coillcam: Call $5.00
*** FLOP *** [C5 S9 H8]
coillcam: Bet $9.00 ...... Here should I check call more often or lead? ....
drugsta: Call $9.00
*** TURN *** [S2]
coillcam: Check
drugsta: Bet $20.50
coillcam: Fold
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $51.65 Rake $1.60
drugsta: wins $51.65

dvdfan

I like both hands, in hand 1 i seen villains do this with MP, TP bad kicker and a draw alot when the raise and then go passive. He could also be doing it with QQ or TT and the K slowed him down but i like the value bet now after he checks 2 streets and fold to a RR

in hand 2, i think you played it fine, he could be doing this AK so you bet the flop and if you dont take it here then your in C/Fold mode unless you think hes 3betting light and at 50nl and no notes hes probably not.

opr

Hand 1 : Fine imo but the bet sizing is not good on the river. If you are going to value bet then bet like 2/3 the pot and stop girly betting.

Hand 2 : Fine.

Opr

cardshark202

Hand 1: value bet is good but I would bet more like 13
Hand 2: I don't like the flop lead too much, esp vs an aggro player. I think you can c/c flop and c/f turn possibly

dvdfan

cardshark202 wrote:

Hand 2: I don't like the flop lead too much, esp vs an aggro player. I think you can c/c flop and c/f turn possibly

Whats your opinions on this, an aggressive player that 3bet PF is going to bet that flop with almost any hand but might fold to a donk bet with AK-AJ and with us being OOP c/call flop then check turn is so weak its going to invite a bet on the turn so i cant see what hand that he has that c/calling is going to have a better expectation than betting that flop with.

valor

#1 i bet turn. saying you should vb because you think he has a missed combo draw makes no sense

#2 i cc cf turn

HiCloy

1 I bet the turn. Will often be a draw or air to me
2 is ok but i prefer to CC the flop

cardshark202

dvdfan wrote:

Whats your opinions on this, an aggressive player that 3bet PF is going to bet that flop with almost any hand but might fold to a donk bet with AK-AJ and with us being OOP c/call flop then check turn is so weak its going to invite a bet on the turn so i cant see what hand that he has that c/calling is going to have a better expectation than betting that flop with.

An aggro player can often raise the donk lead lightly which is exactly what you don't want unless you think he does it with a super-wide range and are planning to get it in. When you c/c the flop you hope he gives up with his AK/AQ hands and only continues with his big pairs, which is often the case, esp at these levels. This makes the turn an easy fold

Mr.Plough

like most said

hand 1 - i play it the same but bet more on river

hand 2 - i prefer the c/c c/f line. i'm raising a donkbet like that with all kinds of crap

coillcam

Cheers guys,

Hand 1 villain folded.

RE: cardshark202, I agree with you here that I should be C/C flop and C/F turn mostly. Just trying out a slightly different line vs. various villains in the last couple of days.

What you said about aggro players re-raising flop bets light:
I have done this myself vs poor players on dry flops occasionally but not so often lately with missed AK/overs, draws etc.

As an aside I have recently added folds to a c-bet stat to my HUD, which is saving me money vs. stations and nits when not double barrel or cbet even. But you really need several hundreds of hands here to get any idea. Some guys call 1 raise in 50 hands and fold to a cbet ie %100 appears and others call 6 raises and call flop bets with $hite ~%60

Any opinions or is anyone else using similar stats?

Mr.Plough

folds to cbet stat is a necessity

other ones - folds to blind steal, attempt to blind steal , separate afs etc