HDMI cable

Aedh Baclamh

Looking for a cheap, short HDMI cable in the big smoke guys. Any ideas?

mathias

Cheapest Ive seen in a retailer is Maplins , and they charge 25 euro.

The sony one will cost you 50 or so from any game store , but theres nothing special about it , get the cheapest one you can.

Dont be conned by these Gold Monster cables for ridiculous money , its an all digital connection , the cheapest will do , there is no difference in quality.

silvine

Check out Power City, around €25 I hear.

Mitch Connor

I got my HDMI cable for €20 in Game.

Riesen_Meal

If ya can hold your knickers buying one try Ebay, my mate got one from Ebay, for €4 and €4 postage, cant distinguish any difference from the sony ps3 "official" one.....

lazygit

check if your TV supports full 1080p if not get the 1080i HDMI cable from Dixons for €15, the 1080p was €45

mathias

check if your TV supports full 1080p if not get the 1080i HDMI cable from Dixons for €15, the 1080p was €45

Its a HDMI cable were talking about right ? Theres no such thing as a 1080p or 1080i cable , resolution is nothing to do with the cable , thats determined by your TV , the playstation checks it and sets its output accordingly !

Either some clueless eigit in Dixons was trying to work out why theres a price difference in his own head , or he was trying to rip you off , as I said , there are no grades of quality with a digital cable , get the cheapest !

lazygit

maybe your right dude, but i can assure you there was 2 HDMI cables on the shelf in Dixons

one was €15 euro, the box clearly stated 1080i max
one was €45 euro, the box clearly stated 1080p max

my TV only supports upto 1080i.. so thats the one i bought... either way OP shop around, you will find huge difference in prices, i believe the orignal Soly HDMI cable was abour €70!!

mathias

Your right there are huge differences in prices and they are all a rip off , it will not make one iota of difference to the final picture or sound whether you get the 20 euro or pay the extortionate 140 euro for the monster cable.

one was €15 euro, the box clearly stated 1080i max
one was €45 euro, the box clearly stated 1080p max

I believe you , but i guarantee you its BS of the highest order and a rip off.

witnessmenow

Hey , ive no idea of the quality but theres one on deal extreme for $10 . i got one myself but i havent been home yet to use it, ill report back in a week if you want!!

http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2645

The guy

Fieldog wrote:

If ya can hold your knickers buying one try Ebay, my mate got one from Ebay, for €4 and €4 postage, cant distinguish any difference from the sony ps3 "official" one.....

I got one off ebay for that price. It works perfectly.

kensutz

They have some on ibood today

Aedh Baclamh

Got one lads the other day, cheers.

Peslo

mathias wrote: »

Your right there are huge differences in prices and they are all a rip off , it will not make one iota of difference to the final picture or sound whether you get the 20 euro or pay the extortionate 140 euro for the monster cable.



I believe you , but i guarantee you its BS of the highest order and a rip off.

HERE!! he's OBVIOUSLY talkin about HDMI 1.2 and HDMI 1.3!
And dont be forgettin the sound lads!! HDMI is all bout the sound as much as picture.

mathias

HERE!! he's OBVIOUSLY talkin about HDMI 1.2 and HDMI 1.3!

This thread is about cables , not interfaces , there is no such thing as a HDMI 1.2/1.3 cable , there is just HDMI cable , thats it.

Interfaces are a completely different topic.

skywalker

The computer place on oconnell bridge, max power or something similar do them for €15. Thats the cheapest Ive seen in a bricks n mortar shop in Dublin.

MadDogGreener

lazygit wrote: »

one was €15 euro, the box clearly stated 1080i max
one was €45 euro, the box clearly stated 1080p max

The difference is the 1080p cable is rated for a higher bandwith. The €15 probably would work for 1080p but there is greater chance of getting artifacts/"sparkles" in the picture due to interference. This is especially true if the cable is long-ish. I've witnessed it myself on the parents 1080p when they got a cheapo 5m cable and there was random sparkles appearing near the top of the picture. A 2m cable was ok.

GrumPy

I have two, €15 3m hdmi cables connected to my tv. One is upscaling dvd player, other is ps3.


Both cables got in Power City, non goldplated, look perfect.

ongarite

We have already had this arguement already but unless you are running a HDMI cable over long distances (unlikely unless you keep your ps3 in another room), any cheap HDMI cable will be perfect.
I got 2 2M cables in Pete's on Dame St for €14 each.

Peslo

mathias wrote: »

This thread is about cables , not interfaces , there is no such thing as a HDMI 1.2/1.3 cable , there is just HDMI cable , thats it.

Interfaces are a completely different topic.

Why use old hadware for new technology??
There is a difference! It sometimes says it on the box! Same cables will only transmit up to 1080i!

AtomicHorror

Peslo wrote: »

WHY USE OLD HARDWARE FOR NEW TECHNOLOGY!
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE! IT SAYS IT ON THE BOX!
SOME CABLES WILL ONLY TRANSMIT UP TO 1080i!

Turn off the caps, you're sounding like a maniac. You gotta swallow your pride here and just give this rubbish up.

Peslo

Peslo wrote: »

Why use old hadware for new technology??
There is a difference! It sometimes says it on the box! Same cables will only transmit up to 1080i!

BETTER??? LOL

kensutz

Can you just grow up

Peslo

Mr.KILLJOYkensutz wrote: »

Can you just grow up

Lighten up man!
why ya gotta go and say that!

Am i interferring with you?
Am i forcing you to be here?
Did somethin i say offend you?
Do you find this really iritating??
Good.

smcelhinney

mathias, I cant find your post on the testing you did for HDMI cables, taking the example of a 5v variance on the signal. But there's some serious pwning to be had if you can drag that up.

I have to say, after reading mathias' excellent exposé on the difference between different "quality" HDMI cables, it prompted me to go out and buy the cheapest one possible. I got the bog-standard one from HMV, think it cost me about 14.99 and its fine.

The upshot of the post was that digital signals over distances of less than 20m are transmitted perfectly, and interference doesnt affect it, as its a digital signal, ie. a 1 or 0 is passed.

mathias, floor is yours.

ongarite

See here for previous posts by mathias:
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54598495&postcount=20
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54603685&postcount=30
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54629244&postcount=48
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54629868&postcount=50
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54630421&postcount=53

Sorry for so many but they are all great posts.

ravydavygravy

Guys, trolls just want guys to take the bait and walk over the bridge. just stop replying to these threads...

newbusiness

smcelhinney wrote: »

I got the bog-standard one from HMV, think it cost me about 14.99 and its fine.

€16.99 - 10% off if you're a student.

Peslo

ongarite wrote: »

See here for previous posts by mathias:
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54598495&postcount=20
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54603685&postcount=30
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54629244&postcount=48
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54629868&postcount=50
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54630421&postcount=53

Sorry for so many but they are all great posts.

pretty good, i've only read the first too so far, but they're a good read.

Sqaull20

ebay.....

Loads of them for €10...try and get a gold plate one...

Digital is Digital...

€6

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Premium-2m-GOLD-HDMI-Lead-Cable-For-HD-TV-LCD-DVD-PS3_W0QQitemZ170182077010QQihZ007QQcategoryZ67859QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Or dabs

€14.12 delivered

http://www.dabs.ie/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=456T&SearchType=1&CategorySelectedId=11018&SearchTerms=hdmi+cable&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=11018

Peslo

Was in Powercity today and seen theire hdmi cables there for 14.95!
They're 3 meters long, so would be handy if your tele was high up on a wall and your home entertainment system was on the floor. just so there's a bit of slack on the end of the cable.
Average joe shouldn't need more than 3 meters. . .

rinnin

Saw one here in the UK in Lidl (old stock) going for £4.99. Dunno what p or i thing it was.

Peslo

Lidl. . . . Brand of Quality!!

Zonda999

This subject has been covered enough on boards but i think i've found a new cheapest one for a shop.Argos have this:

http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=30001&langId=-1&catalogId=1500001101&productId=1500206969&Trail=C%24cip%3D1500012579.Sound%2Band%2Bvision%3EC%24cip%3D1500012586.Electrical%2Baccessories%3EC%24Brands%3DMikomi.Mikomi&categoryId=1500012586&clickfrom=name

In sharp contrast to this, if money is no object.......

http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=30001&langId=-1&catalogId=1500001101&productId=1500202155&Trail=C%24cip%3D1500012579.Sound%2Band%2Bvision%3EC%24cip%3D1500012586.Electrical%2Baccessories%3EC%24Brands%3DMonster.Monster&categoryId=1500012586&clickfrom=name

Who i ask, would spend nearly 200euro on a hdmi lead???

zt-OctaviaN

Dont bother with the like of retail outlets charging 235 euro for a 'Monster' cable.
Although moster make good cables Digital transmission isnt really open to the same interference as analogue leads were classically used to.
Digital signal either gets to its reciever or it doesnt and theres normally correction there to resend etc.

However having purchased a new telly a few weeks back I now needed a good lead for the PS3.

Atlona 1M Flat cable. I got mine from Linexpo great service.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1M-3FT-ATLONA-FLAT-HDMI-CABLE-1-3-HDMI-RATE-WHITE-COLOR_W0QQitemZ350027382695QQihZ022QQcategoryZ149974QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The cable is HDMI 1.3 verified and has a transmission speed up to 10Gbps thats double the norm so it is a very high quality and technically capable cable. Especially if your running 1080P video from e.g. PS3

Thumbs up from me!!
Nick

mathias

The cable is HDMI 1.3 verified and has a transmission speed up to 10Gbps thats double the norm so it is a very high quality

Hate to burst bubbles but its not , 10.2 is the max throughput for any HDMI cable , not just that one .... its just price gouging !

Ive tested them at work , and at 1M any and all HDMI cables are equal ! Argos do one every bit as good for 7 euros.

1080p with HD sound using 1.3 equipment only uses half the possible bandwidth , so that " HDMI 1.3 , 1080p rated " blurb is just rubbish , they can all do that!

Peslo

mathias wrote: »

Hate to burst bubbles but its not , 10.2 is the max throughput for any HDMI cable , not just that one .... its just price gouging !

Ive tested them at work , and at 1M any and all HDMI cables are equal ! Argos do one every bit as good for 7 euros.

1080p with HD sound using 1.3 equipment only uses half the possible bandwidth , so that " HDMI 1.3 , 1080p rated " blurb is just rubbish , they can all do that!

Listen, Mathias, you're just a CHEAPSKATE!!!

*Hank Scorpio*

Looking to pick one up 2mro as I just bought a ps3, my Samsung LE40M87BD TV supports 1080p on my xbox360 over component. Not sure about the ps3 over component, looking to get a HDMI for it anyway.

Is there anything to look out for when buying one? F.e i saw a standard one in GAME that I was just gona buy for around 20euro.

noodler

Mathias is the only making any sense. I know nothing about this on a technical level. But he is the only one who has either tested them or has some argument to back it up.

Is a Scart a Scart?

bandit197

Zonda999 wrote: »

This subject has been covered enough on boards but i think i've found a new cheapest one for a shop.Argos have this:

http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=30001&langId=-1&catalogId=1500001101&productId=1500206969&Trail=C%24cip%3D1500012579.Sound%2Band%2Bvision%3EC%24cip%3D1500012586.Electrical%2Baccessories%3EC%24Brands%3DMikomi.Mikomi&categoryId=1500012586&clickfrom=name

In sharp contrast to this, if money is no object.......

http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=30001&langId=-1&catalogId=1500001101&productId=1500202155&Trail=C%24cip%3D1500012579.Sound%2Band%2Bvision%3EC%24cip%3D1500012586.Electrical%2Baccessories%3EC%24Brands%3DMonster.Monster&categoryId=1500012586&clickfrom=name

Who i ask, would spend nearly 200euro on a hdmi lead???

Somebody with a lot more money than sense, who listens and believes what salespeople tell them, rather than doing a bit of research.

Kintarō Hattori

mathias wrote: »

Hate to burst bubbles but its not...

I don't think he had any bubble to burst. He wasn't advocating a €50 HDMI cable, he was merely telling us he had faith in his ultra cheapo cable from eBay.

Mathias I know you mean well but you come across sometimes with an air of arrogance in relation to HDMI cables, this being a good example:

Hate to burst bubbles but its not

Why couldn't you have just stated the facts clean and simple. I apologise as I may have taken you up wrong but starting your post with the above I just see it as a little arrogant.

Vendetta

If your still looking for the hdmi cable i picked one up in zavii in the square yesterday for 5 euro. Works fine on my ps3 and dvd upscaler no loss of quality on my samsung 40" and i payed for a good quality one about a year ago.

noodler

To honest I think Mathias has simply set people straight. The only people that shoudl be offended are those you spent 50e+ on a cable.

Kintarō Hattori

Fair enough. I just got the impression that perhaps he's fed up and frustrated at having to put the arguement across repeatedly.

norrie rugger

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Fair enough. I just got the impression that perhaps he's fed up and frustrated at having to put the arguement across repeatedly.

I know that it pisses me off saying the same thing over and over and over:(:mad:

mathias

I don't think he had any bubble to burst.

This is what I was referring too ...

has a transmission speed up to 10Gbps thats double the norm

Which is not correct , all HDMI cables have a normal bandwidth of 10.2Gbps , and regardless of what claims any salesman will tell you that is true for all HDMI cables.

You will see cables marked up as HDMI 1.3 , 1080p as opposed to 1080i , etc etc etc , all of this is simply not true and is whats commonly called packing the deal or price gouging , myself I just call a spade a spade and call it fraud , as that is what it is.

HDMI cables can be category 1 or category 2 , thats it , and all that means is that one engineering sample from any particular maker was tested using either category 1 or category 2 specs and the rest of the cables were made the same way.
It would be a mistake to think that the cable you bought was ever tested , it is most likely that it wasnt.

From experience I know that any cable 10 meters or less that is mechanically sound will pass either test.

So , dont fall for the salesmans "untruths" , get the cheapest one you can , it will work as well as any other.
Margins are tight on Flat panel TV's at the moment , and most shops will try to make extra money on accessories , the cable is the number 1 target for this and as a result most shops carry the likes of monster / cord / Kimber cables at ridiculous prices ... I have seen 1m cables priced at 120 euros , an outrageous rip-off , and no matter what these guys say or what it says on the pack from the cable company , there will be no performance difference and there is no justification for that price.

Kintarō Hattori

Rightyo so, I guess I just took your post up wrong, my apologies.

penguinpoppers

Ok, just buy the cheapest damn cable you can find. If you want you can ''splash out'' and get a metre long goldplated one for €5 from ebay.
To be honest it doesnt really matter what type you get

Antrim_Man

http://www.amazon.co.uk/4Gamers-HDMI-Cable-PS3/dp/B000Q7BOUM/ref=pd_sim_vg_h__1

As has been said. A cheaper cable will do the same job. Read the reviews for this cable.

Svyryd

mathias wrote: »

This thread is about cables , not interfaces , there is no such thing as a HDMI 1.2/1.3 cable , there is just HDMI cable , thats it.

Interfaces are a completely different topic.

Dude you are so wrong... there is a 1.2 and 1.3 HDMI cables!

Roar

Svyryd wrote: »

Dude you are so wrong... there is a 1.2 and 1.3 HDMI cables!

dear god..