2 2/4 Hands

ianmc38

Hand 1 Effective Stacks 400

Guy posts. I make it 18 in the cutoff with QQ. Button makes it 60. He is 45/25over 300 and is a fish. I flat call.

Flop (130)

872 rainbow
I check. He bets 120. I call.

Turn (370)

T completing the rainbow

I check. He shoves. I want to fold and call.

Thoughts?

Hand 2

Different table. A nit open limps in the cutoff. I have a note on him that says "open limps small pairs and scs in LP. Raises Ax in unopened pots in CO or OTB"

I complete 44 in the SB.

Flop (12)

A 4 5 rainbow

I lead for 10. CO makes 35. I make it 80. He ships it in.

Does anyone fold?

Hectorjelly

Hand 1 I would look at the flop
Hand 2 I think you should fold, but you should definitely not of 3bet

BigCityBanker

hand 1 - whats the flop? or does it not matter?

hand 2 - is prolly ill but i call.

ianmc38

whoops edited hand 1

ligger

Hand 1 With those stats I ship it in.
Hand 2 fold, based on comments this is the one time in 8 he hit his set.

BigCityBanker

ligger wrote:

Hand 2 fold, based on comments this is the one time in 8 he hit his set.

can he also not have 45sooted here? or does hit nit status shove scream to us that he must have the set and make this an easy fold?

Hawk Eye

Hand 1 : Even with them loose aggro stats I'd be inclined to fold but I think it's a lot closer than it looks. Has he 3-bet you much postion and how come you didnt 4-bet him pre w/ his image?

Hand 2 : Is he a nit that still plays suited connectors as low as 32s? If not then I'd call after all you do beat AK,A4,A5 and 45. If stacks are 100BB's for hand 2 you should be more than happy to get it in here, it's just a cooler if he has 55.

LuckyLloyd

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ligger

BigCityBanker wrote:

can he also not have 45sooted here? or does hit nit status shove scream to us that he must have the set and make this an easy fold?

I can only put him on 3 hands here based on comments. 44, 55 or 45, as you would take AA as being raised PF. As 44 is out then it is up to a coinflip on 45 or 55 and the push would put me thinking 55. No reads and I call so quick that I hurt the tendons in my "clicking" finger.. Sure Ian will reveal the outcome of this hand and show why he is playing pro while I am still working 9 to 5 :mad:

BarrierReef

Hand 1 - Against person with those stats, I would be putting more in pre-flop. He has a hand he likes but you are def ahead of his range, if you re-re-raise ( is that a 4 bet ?? ) to 150 give him the oppertunity to get his stack in with alot of hands that you crush, you are OOP and if an A or K flops .....

As played out, Flop is all you hoped for, as is turn. ( sick if he has 10's ) , I call........ even the fish are entitled to catch big hands sometimes though.

Hand 2 - I go broke here.

ianmc38

hand 1 is probably more interesting. He hadnt really 3bet me and my table image was pretty good.

Hand 2 he obviously had 55, but I was so sure I was beaten that I almost timed out before calling. Probably a bbv, but I think there's definitely a case for folding as my notes were bang on.

Was the good side of set over set twice after so didnt really bother me too much, but I was pretty annoyed that I couldnt find the fold button.

cardshark202

Hand 1 is well played assuming you called
Hand 2 I don't think you can fold even given your read. I would probably call flop and crai the turn. I'm not folding this though cos even the most solid players do stupid things.

Macspower

I prob call hand 1 as well.....

hand 2 I prob call too but what I like about this is that your reads/notes and instincts were spot on despite loossing the dough.... little consolation but....

ianmc38

Hand 1 He had qq as well. Not sure about my call. I was reviewing that hand in PT after and thought that maybe it was a fold.

fuzzbox

3-bet pre against fish (what kind of fish is he?), I CRAI flop and I call now. Basically, I try to get it in before you did somehow. If, however, he is a passive fish, who suddenly gets really aggro, then I can fold the flop.

Hand 2- fold Vs nit (what type of nit? 15/6?)