WARNING not free 5D training.

Sebzy

Image Supply Systems, in association with Canon, are hosting the next Canon Camera Training Seminar in September.


Canon EOS 5D Day-Training

with Canon-Recommended Trainers
Experience Seminars!


Dates: Monday 3rd September 2007
Tuesday 4th September 2007
(same session both days)

Time: 9.30am - 5pm

Venue: Camden Court Hotel
Dublin 2.



Making the Most of Your EOS 5D 1 Day Seminar
This hands-on training seminar will feature explanations of the full workings of the camera including all custom functions and picture styles. We will be looking at the practical applications of this versatile camera so you can make the most of the outstanding features.

Fee: €250 per person includes:
- Full Day Expert Practical Training from the No. 1 Photographic Trainers recommended by Canon.
- A Comprehensive Seminar Manual & CD-ROM
- Lunch and Refreshments
- Limited Class Sizes


Bookings & Information:
Places are limited so please book early to avoid disappointment.
Call Caroline in ISS on 01 4877884, or e-mail caroline@imagesupplysystems.com.


(Course fees must be paid in full by cash or credit card prior to the training seminar, and are non-refundable except in the event that the seminar is cancelled.)

feileacan

has anyone been on this before ?

is it worth the money ?

Carrigman

Why not just read the manual that comes with the camera? Or the umpteen different websites that dispense information for free? Save your money and put it towards some good Canon glass.

Fajitas!

Agreed Carrigman... I don't think there's much they could teach about the camera that isn't online or in the manual, or that you could learn yourself.

Eirebear

I think i have to agree also, especially when it is soleley aimed at 5D owners.
Surely if you can justify a 5d you have enough interest in photography to go and read and experiment and learn?
Surely if canon wanted to do this properly they should aim it at 350/400 20/30 owners?

Sebzy

I think everyone's overlooking the fact that the 5D is the camera pro's who have used film in the past move to it's full frame for beginners.

Those classes are aimed at working pro's who don't have the time to sit down and browse the Internet with 101 questions. Canon provide a professional trainer plus it's a way to network and find people in the same situation just starting with digital.

I'm quite amused it not around the 500 mark to be honest.

eeeek I feel like I'm trying to sell the dam thing.

May I just say to clear up any confusion I dislike canon's market strategy I see it as fundamentally flawed and wont last the test of time. Ah feel better now.

Eirebear

Sebzy wrote:

I think everyone's overlooking the fact that the 5D is the camera pro's who have used film in the past move to it's full frame for beginners.

Those classes are aimed at working pro's who don't have the time to sit down and browse the Internet with 101 questions. Canon provide a professional trainer plus it's a way to network and find people in the same situation just starting with digital.

I'm quite amused it not around the 500 mark to be honest.

eeeek I feel like I'm trying to sell the dam thing.

May I just say to clear up any confusion I dislike canon's market strategy I see it as fundamentally flawed and wont last the test of time. Ah feel better now.

hmmm, im still not so sure...maybe im just not in the right frame of mind but how many pro's would make the switch without checking it all out first and making sure they can adapt well enough?

I know a lot of "purists" are now feeling pressured into the switch but surely even the most reluctant proffessional will figure it all out before completely making that change?

Carrigman

Sebzy wrote:

Those classes are aimed at working pro's who don't have the time to sit down and browse the Internet with 101 questions.

What exactly would a working pro not know about the camera? I'm not a pro but am confident I could use a 5D without even looking at the manual. You, er, switch it on, select Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority or Manual and away you go. It's no big deal. (And if you don't know the essentials of AP, SP and Manual exposure you shouldn't have a 5D in the first place).A half hour or so perusing the manual will teach you all you need to know about the finer points of custom functions and the like.

Sebzy

Carrigman you illustrate my point quite well. You pick up a 5D and apply the technique you just said "You, er, switch it on, select Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority or Manual and away you go" and you produce snapps not marketable quality prints.

I could name 101 different features/advantages digital has over film but I don't want to rub it in any more.

Just think a bit more now is picking up a 5D just the same as a EOS1v.


Seb.

thebaz

Sebzy wrote:

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I'm quite amused it not around the 500 mark to be honest.

eeeek I feel like I'm trying to sell the dam thing.

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500 ??

-- maybe you are a moonlighting canon salesman, as well as a DJ

Sebzy

thebaz wrote:

500 ??

-- maybe you are a moonlighting canon salesman, as well as a DJ

Tut tut tut you should know buy now I'm an Olympus freak and by law we have to hate Canon and any other brand which produces less noise than our camera's. :rolleyes:

Seb.

Spyral

disclaimer :this post is for pure 1-upmanship

good Canon glass

..is an oxymoron like American Justice, British Education or Irish Government

Carrigman

Sebzy wrote:

Carrigman you illustrate my point quite well. You pick up a 5D and apply the technique you just said "You, er, switch it on, select Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority or Manual and away you go" and you produce snapps not marketable quality prints.

When I say "away you go", Seb, I mean applying serious technique to the picture taking process. For a landscape photographer that could mean the use of a tripod, ND grads, remote shutter release, etc. That is something one learns over the years and applies regardless of which camera one uses.

I would expect any 5D owner to understand the advantages of the different exposure modes and know how to use them to best effect. Hence the "away you go" remark meaning that he/she shouldn't have to think twice about it, it should be second nature.

The 5D most definitely is not a snap shooter's camera - it is a serious piece of kit for photographers who know their stuff and who shouldn't need to spend €250 to hear someone tell them how to use it.

Sebzy

Just realized something it's 11:50 the sun has gone away and nobody gives a rats ass on what the target audience of this training is apart from you. I give up .

mikeanywhere

Sebzy wrote:

I'm quite amused it not around the 500 mark to be honest.

Ssshhhhh Seb, dont want to give those guys at ISS any more marketing ideas now do we??

Calina

Carrigman wrote:

What exactly would a working pro not know about the camera? I'm not a pro but am confident I could use a 5D without even looking at the manual. You, er, switch it on, select Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority or Manual and away you go. It's no big deal. (And if you don't know the essentials of AP, SP and Manual exposure you shouldn't have a 5D in the first place).A half hour or so perusing the manual will teach you all you need to know about the finer points of custom functions and the like.

Actually, tbh, this is a little ingenuous. I made a switch from Olympus to Canon last year when I went from manual to digital and tbh you think you're stating the obvious there but there were two things which tripped me up for a long time and they were 1) the way you could do stuff with a DSLR which was awkward with a film SLR such as ISO and white balance adjustments which were nothing i could ever play with on my OM10 without changing film and 2) the lightmetre in the Canon behaves completely differently to the lightmeter on the Olympus. The latter completely wrecked my head for around three months.

A working pro probably knows a huge amount about taking photographs but every camera has its vagaries and idiosyncracies and if the 5D is new to someone - who may not be computer-ish minded (and I know plenty of them) then yeah, some training might be welcome to speed up things. Just because you don't need doesn't mean other people won't. Anyway, for a working pro, the beauty is that it'll be tax deductible.

Canonfan

Most 5D users are professional enough to avoid these kind of beginner classes.
Just my €0.02