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Article: Government had €3.4bn rail plan in 2004

  • 07-08-2007 11:25am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭


    From today's Irish Times
    Government had €3.4bn rail plan in 2004Frank McDonald

    Electrification of Dublin commuter rail services to Kildare, Maynooth and Drogheda, and on the first phase of a reopened Navan line, was proposed to the Government in July 2004 by Iarnród Éireann, according to documents obtained by The Irish Times.

    Released under the Freedom of Information Act, the business case for a Greater Dublin Area Integrated Rail Network also included the crucial rail interconnector between Heuston Station and Spencer Dock, which was estimated to cost €1.3 billion at 2002 prices.

    Although all monetary figures in the documents were meticulously blacked out by the Department of Transport, it was possible to discern that the overall cost of the investment programme - which also included Dart upgrades - was put at €3.4 billion.

    "Immediate priorities" included quadrupling the Kildare line as far as Adamstown, four new stations along the line as well as new stations at Spencer Dock, Phoenix Park, Pelletstown and Porterstown, and reopening the disused Navan line to Pace, north of Dunboyne.

    The investment programme also included a Dart spur from the northern commuter line to serve Dublin airport, although it was clear that if the Government opted for a metro line linking Swords with St Stephen's Green, this would become a redundant proposal.

    In the longer term, having completed resignalling in the city-centre to relieve the "Connolly bottleneck", Iarnród Éireann sought approval to electrify the lines serving Kildare, Maynooth and Drogheda and to build the interconnector between Heuston and Spencer Dock.

    This would include five underground stations: at Heuston (linking with the Tallaght Luas line); Thomas Street (serving the Digital Hub); St Stephen's Green (linking with the Sandyford Luas line and the Swords metro); Pearse Station (linking with the Dart); and Spencer Dock.

    According to Iarnród Éireann, the investment programme would result in a four-fold increase in peak rail patronage by 2016, superior access to Dublin city-centre from nearly all population centres within a 100km commuter belt and convenient integration of all rail services.

    Endorsed by Goodbody Economic Consultants, who said that the overall thrust of the plan "makes operational and market sense", funding options included additional exchequer grants, borrowings, leasing and public-private partnership arrangements and levies on commercial and residential schemes.

    Areas with commercial development potential included Docklands, the Digital Hub, the Guinness brewery site, Heuston and Inchicore Works, while those with housing development potential were Docklands, Inchicore Works, west and north-west Dublin and south Meath.

    In its evaluation of the plan Goodbody said that since all trains going through the tunnel between Heuston and Spencer Dock would have to be electric, "a decision needs to be taken with regard to whether all future purchases of rolling stock will be electric- powered".

    The Department of Finance expressed concern that the €1.3 billion cost of the 5km rail tunnel could be underestimated by some €500 million in 2004 prices "if the general contingency figure was increased to metro levels". Moreover, it noted, this would need to be revised upwards.

    In June, Iarnród Éireann conceded that the interconnector would cost "significantly more" than the 2002 estimate of €1.3 billion.

    This was also based on a single-bore tunnel, probably with a fireproof wall between the two tracks to meet railway safety concerns.

    Under Transport 21, which former minister for transport Martin Cullen has described as "my brainchild", the Swords metro line is to be up and running in 2010 although the more strategically important rail tunnel between Heuston and Spencer Dock is not due for completion until 2015.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    Just build the damn thing already :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭constellation


    Slice wrote:
    Under Transport 21, which former minister for transport Martin Cullen has described as "my brainchild", the Swords metro line is to be up and running in 2010...

    C'mere Cullen. This won't hurt.... much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭Prof_V


    How exactly is this news? I thought the plan was common knowledge at the time; it was even presented to the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Transport as early as February 2004: http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.aspx?F=TRJ20040225.xml&Node=11#N11
    (a cost of €3 billion was quoted on that occasion; it's possible the airport spur accounts for the difference).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭McSpud


    Trains not sexy & don't make good Election posters.

    Expensive Metro is much better PR for Elections but when the project costs are out of control the politicians that approved will have retired on fat Dail pensions.

    :o


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Prof_V wrote:
    How exactly is this news? I thought the plan was common knowledge at the time;
    Yea I was really confused by the article too, the journalist was acting like they'd scooped a story. The plan certainly was common knowledge at the time. As for the plan that the metro was to be running by 2010, that's just plain wrong, it was always stated to be 2012 at the earliest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    The Irish Times got the proposal eventually from the DoT, by appealing to the Information Commissioner. All money was blacked out, but the IT was able to work things out from previous publicity, leaks, etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Transport21 Fan


    Maybe Brian Guckian can design Frank McDonald a TGV freight-Suas which runs across Dublin on its way between Crossmolina and Dingle so Dubliners can grab onto it as it passes by?


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