The Thunderdome

r3nu4l

This is in some way linked to Togsters "I love Degsy and would have his babies were it biologically possible" thread but I felt it deserved it's own thread.

Like togster, I too feel there should be some sort of T'Dome charter ...just not the regular charter. I'd like this charter to say something along the lines of "Not every thread in here is 'The Insult thread' you bunch of imbeciles!" <--see what I did there?

Anyway, the reason I say this is because Terry (I think) moved a potentially great Thunderdome thread (The Least favourite Poster thread) from After Hours only to have it spoiled by the usual "Your [insert relative type here] is a smelly [insert expletive] who likes it up the [insert orifice]" kind of crap that isn't intelligent and gets rather boring after a while.

I've no real problem with the insult thread itself, I'm not complaining about that, I'd just like to see other T'Dome threads kept 'on-topic' for want of a better word It'd be more fun if every thread wasn't hijacked by the same posters throwing the same repetitive banalities at one another day in, day out.

So please Admins, can we have some kind of charter saying that not every thread is the insult thread? (and you may want to add that porn and the like isn't acceptable...just for those whose neural synapses aren't firing as well as those of the rest of us. .

Just thinking... how about a charter is drawn up on this thread, and then pitched as an idea?

Terry

Myth wrote:

Just thinking... how about a charter is drawn up on this thread, and then pitched as an idea?

How about this:
Personal abuse is allowed, but keep the threads on topic, you bunch of ****ing halfwits.

togster

How about.... no pics of disgusting inappropriate images. A common sense rule aswell. And leave it at that. Don't agree with trying to pigeon hole threads. Thats just a stoopid idea;)

John Mason

the thunderdome is fine, if you dont like the insults which is the whole point of the thunderdome, dont go in to it - simple

r3nu4l

Terry, that sounds great! Perfect!

togster wrote:

How about.... no pics of disgusting inappropriate images. A common sense rule aswell. And leave it at that. Don't agree with trying to pigeon hole threads. Thats just a stoopid idea;)

togster, I'm not suggesting pigeon-holing as such but at least don't turn every single thread into an insult thread. That's pointless and ruins the idea of having a forum with different 'topics'. Unfortunately the regular users of the T'Dome don't seem to understand the idea of different subjects and insist on carrying over the insult thread into every topic on the forum.

The Least favourite poster thread could have been great and some posters did try to make it so but then the regular 'crew' came along and spoiled it imo.

I would have thought that every thread being turned into an extension of the insult thread was an example of pigeonholing threads..

The proposed charter would stop that.

And whats the point of the T'dome anyway?

togster

r3nu4l. Yeah point taken. Kind of... But if you drag the thread of topic you'll get banned?? Dont agree with that at all!:D

r3nu4l

togster wrote:

r3nu4l. Yeah point taken. Kind of... But if you drag the thread of topic you'll get banned?? Dont agree with that at all!:D

Nah, I still think the moderating should be very light but if some threads go way off topic before they've had a chance to get going I think the mods should just delete those posts and let the thread grow for a while.

I'd say bans should only occur for people posting porn and the like.

Blowfish

r3nu4l wrote:

Nah, I still think the moderating should be very light but if some threads go way off topic before they've had a chance to get going I think the mods should just delete those posts and let the thread grow for a while.

Or just split them off into an "insult poster X for going off topic" thread.

RoundyMooney

A few thoughts. I agree with what R3nu4l is getting at, as it happens, I've been banging on about a rudimentary charter for the 'dome for the last year or so.

I used to participate there once upon a long ago, but by my aunties bloomers, it's gotten bloody stale and samey.

Keep it simple. No pr0n, no spam/shill, no lawyer bait, keep it on topic, and after that, post away.

I'll even go further than that, open new thread posting privileges to all, and actively encourage mods to move litigious-free and other suitable threads there, if it appears posters wish to continue a discussion that is perhaps not suitable for the originating forum.

Of course, taking the above actions will of course, aside from giving the 'dome a kickstart, mean that dedicated moderation will be required. It is unreasonable and impractical to suggest that the admins continue to monitor it, and leaving it solely to whatever SMod happens to be online is also out of whack with the general practise here.

Cue a slew of amp-test posts...





I'll do it.

6th

irishbird wrote:

the thunderdome is fine, if you dont like the insults which is the whole point of the thunderdome, dont go in to it - simple

See thats not the point of the Thunderdome at all but of course you dont know that and are probable incapable of understanding it either.

Throw in a charter & keep thread relatively on topic. As it is the Dome is pathetic.

6th

r3nu4l wrote:

The Least favourite poster thread could have been great and some posters did try to make it so but then the regular 'crew' came along and spoiled it imo.

So true, alot of the regulars are idiots.

6th

togster wrote:

r3nu4l. Yeah point taken. Kind of... But if you drag the thread of topic you'll get banned?? Dont agree with that at all!:D

If you do it after a warning you should be banned.

Mr Magnolia

I'd be for a 'keep it on topic' warning and that's all.

If you have to tell people not to post nsfw material then we're al bucked. Can't hold people by the hand all through life.





@6th: you realize you can quote several people in one post? Lazy git :P

faceman

a charter in thunderdome is badly needed. Given all the talk about avoidin boards.ie being sued etc, having a forum with no charter is odd.

If someone posted libellous comments about me or any of my business interests in thunderdome i would go after boards.ie as hard as i could if i saw that the forum had no charter! Im sure thats one of the first questions that would be asked in court.

Agamemnon

RoundyMooney wrote:

Of course, taking the above actions will of course, aside from giving the 'dome a kickstart, mean that dedicated moderation will be required. It is unreasonable and impractical to suggest that the admins continue to monitor it, and leaving it solely to whatever SMod happens to be online is also out of whack with the general practise here.

Cue a slew of amp-test posts...

I'll do it.

Don't do it, Roundy, it's a suicide mission. Modding the Thunderdome would be the most difficult and thankless task on boards. You could tell a poster to get back on topic and he could comply but still tell you to go fuck yourself.

Perhaps modship of the 'Dome could be given to mods who've been naughty, as a punishment akin to latrine duty. They could lose their other modships and only get them back once they've shown they can mod the Thunderdome. First candidate: Anti.

Terry

I just had a look around there.
Every thread is the same. All the same crap from the same few people.
Made for very painful reading.

Heisenberg.

This post has been deleted.

John Mason

i suggest degsy for mod then

RoundyMooney

Are you girlfriend number two or five?

I'm more likely to end up as a mod of the Soccer forum tbh.

The sameness is the major problem. That and the fact that the place needs new blood.

I actually don't think the workload excessive, as proposed, but without wishing to speak for the admins, I can't see them continuing to act as sole mods as the mooted changes are envisaged.

[edited for clarity]

John Mason

neither girlfriend 2 or 5 but apparently his PA at the moment

RoundyMooney

PA beats all. He has to pay you in some form or another

John Mason

RoundyMooney wrote:

PA beats all. He has to pay you in some form or another

i would repeat what he just said to me about you but i would be afraid of getting banned

RoundyMooney

Bloomin 'roid rage.

Tell him to watch his blood pressure, this thread had moved on from him until you got here...

David Michael

:rolleyes:
To all.

tbh

Right.


Any threads that get moved to the dome should be monitored and the original discussion that prompted it to be moved should be allowed to continue to completion - then lock it. I would say that typically the posters from the original thread should be allowed post away, but off-topic (regular dome) posts should be deleted and the posters warned. Three strikes = bannage.

The IT allowed to continue as-is, obvious rules apply.

If anyone starts a thread in the dome about another poster, the thread is only allowed to continue as long as the poster in question replies. For example, in the thread that was started about the sci..eh...one user, once that user stops replying, the thread gets locked. That way, any threads set up to bully someone won't work, as the person being "bullied" can simply ignore the thread.

Screw the amp test, I'll volunteer to mod the dome. I like it, and I want it to continue, but in a cleaner form.

Finally, 6th, thats the second time in two days you've directed personal abuse at a dome regular in feedback. I'll repeat my offer to you - come onto the Insult thread and repeat your abuse. Seeing as you are so keen on raising the standard and all.

r3nu4l

Well, if the Admins did decide to give someone modship of the dome then both tbh and RoundyMooney would certainly be two guys that would do a good job! They know what the dome should be and have just the right sense of humour to make it work as it should

If it were a vote, they'd get mine...and they'd get my vote too

To David Michael, why bother posting if you can't contribute intelligently to the debate? You very strange man you!

FlutterinBantam

Fair play TBH... do you know what you are letting yourself in for... good suggestion.

As long as it does not turn into a old pals rest home like the tCN,and the same inane posts and even more inane "in jokes" were de rigeur in most of the threads.

I would trust you to be fair and not allow an "inner circle" to develop who would be above the law as it were.

6th

tbh wrote:

Finally, 6th, thats the second time in two days you've directed personal abuse at a dome regular in feedback.

Then report my posts.

tbh wrote:

I'll repeat my offer to you - come onto the Insult thread and repeat your abuse. Seeing as you are so keen on raising the standard and all.

I have put in my time on the Dome and in its current incarnation it holds no interest for me. Everyone can see its gotten dull and repetative and thats down 100% to its regulars.

FlutterinBantam

Its no more dull and repetitive than any of the niche fora on Boards.

I never set foot on the Paranormal,and never will .

Crud like that has no interest to me whatsoever.

Please don't try and force your opinion on other people.

others are just as entitled as you, to post once it conforms with Boards rules.

Thats what a lot of people with your attitude tend to forget.

tbh

6th wrote:

Then report my posts.

waaay ahead of ya.

I have put in my time on the Dome and in its current incarnation it holds no interest for me. Everyone can see its gotten dull and repetative and thats down 100% to its regulars.

I could say exactly the same about the paranormal forum. Solution: I don't go in there.


edit: what bantam said.

6th

Er ... lads ... I'm usually the first to complain about the paranormal forum when it gets shitty.

You guys are all agreeing with me that alot of threads in the DOme turn into the Insult Thread. Like you I'd like to see it used properly if its gonna be used at all.

tbh

6th wrote:

Er ... lads ... I'm usually the first to complain about the paranormal forum when it gets shitty.

You guys are all agreeing with me that alot of threads in the DOme turn into the Insult Thread. Like you I'd like to see it used properly if its gonna be used at all.

surely you can make that point without insulting irishbird and degsy. This isn't the thunderdome you know.

FlutterinBantam

OK fine... if the powers that be so decree,then get it on.

The IT should be left as it is,and work on the other stuff to prevent blatantly off topic posting.

6th you have been tossing around derogitory comments around about T/Dome users like snuff at a wake ,not that anyone gives Jack Schidt.

i just don't want to see it develop into a cosy little club,where a hierarchy of innercircle cliques takes over and starts banning with no reasons given.

Obviously that was the case in the past,as the same tired auld avvies from the Galway area cropping up in the anti camp.

Terry

I propose that there be two mods.
One with brains and one with brawn.

They should be two new accounts for existing members.
One will be called "Master" and the other "Blaster".

Then the witty regulars can call them Masterbater and we will all laugh.

6th

I like that idea.

RoundyMooney

tbh wrote:

surely you can make that point without insulting irishbird and degsy. This isn't the thunderdome you know.

As Ruu would probably say, plus a haon.

I also express agreement with tbh's previous post, in that his concept of what the 'dome should be, and my own, are quite similiar.

Id est;

tbh wrote:

The IT allowed to continue as-is, obvious rules apply.

mise wrote:

Let the insult thread or whatever that has become remain as is, it seems that's what some people want.

tbh wrote:

If anyone starts a thread in the dome about another poster, the thread is only allowed to continue as long as the poster in question replies. For example, in the thread that was started about the sci..eh...one user, once that user stops replying, the thread gets locked. That way, any threads set up to bully someone won't work, as the person being "bullied" can simply ignore the thread.

mise again wrote:

I don't either, but I fully agree that the principle behind the 'dome is as valid as it ever has been, and yes, insults (even the ones under discussion) are a part of that. The only situation that negates that rule has come up before, where megathreads have (with or without some reason) been targeted directly at certain users of the site. These were allowed to meander, in retrospect for too long, and should be avoided in the future. I suppose what I'm getting at, is leave the **** and feathers fly, as long as its mutual.

Thanks for the compliment, R3nu4l

i just don't want to see it develop into a cosy little club,where a hierarchy of innercircle cliques takes over and starts banning with no reasons given.

That would kind of defeat the purpose, no? Kthulu/Yoda/<insert deity here> knows there's enough creative wit on this site to make the forum a runaway success. Indiscriminate banning would work against that and only hinder the run of things.

Obviously that was the case in the past,as the same tired auld avvies from the Galway area cropping up in the anti camp.

You've lost me here, I'm afraid.

John Mason

6th wrote:

Then report my posts.



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i just did