Average chips and BBs in tournaments

sumoward

I am playing a tournament at the moment.

The Big Blind is 300.

The average chip count is 5819.

I am on 6300 chips.

i am wondering if any one has any insights into average chips and the number of BB you have as an indicator to how your doing?

30something

Harrington on Holdem II (HOH 2) covers this excelently. Unfortunately I left mine on a bloddy plane!!!

sumoward

30something wrote:

Harrington on Holdem II (HOH 2) covers this excelently. Unfortunately I left mine on a bloddy plane!!!

I should be getting that from amazon tomorrow!:D


And comments on the hand I went out on.

GAME #1046573579: Texas Hold'em NL Tournament 2007-08-02 23:28:42
Table 82111636 (Tournament: $5 Freezeout $2000 GP Buy-In: $5+$0.50)
Seat 1: Trayford ($4,900.00 in chips)
Seat 3: joow ($8,885.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Buddallah ($6,110.00 in chips)
Seat 5: kh75 ($14,685.00 in chips)
Seat 6: Bacardi23 ($5,350.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 7: Sumoward ($9,700.00 in chips)
Seat 8: Pygmaelion ($9,650.00 in chips)
Seat 9: karenlaur ($20,530.00 in chips)
Seat 10: tintinhickey ($6,195.00 in chips)
Sumoward: Post SB $400.00
Pygmaelion: Post BB $800.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sumoward [DA D4]
Dealt to karenlaur [CA S10]
karenlaur: Call $800.00
tintinhickey: Fold
Trayford: Fold
joow: Fold
Buddallah: Fold
kh75: Fold
Bacardi23: Fold
Sumoward: Call $400.00
Pygmaelion: Check
*** FLOP *** [C10 D3 D5]
Sumoward: Bet $2,400.00
Pygmaelion: Fold
karenlaur: Call $2,400.00
*** TURN *** [SA]
Sumoward: Allin $6,500.00
karenlaur: Call $6,500.00
*** RIVER *** [C6]
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20,200.00 Rake $0.00
karenlaur: wins $20,200.00

Shadowless

Meh, your always goin broke here I reckon.
I check the turn though, it gives him a chance to bluff with hands that you beat.
I can't see a worse hand calling your all-in.

Ace2007

yea only thing you could have done differently was go all in on the flop - might have taken it down there and then...

sumoward

In my on going 5 year mission not to be too tight and to be aggresive I am happy enough how this panned out.

Had I doubled up I was well placed for the rest of the tournament. To get in the real money I felt I had to go for this.

I still had any 2 and any Diamond to save me.


BTW what do people think of the Villian Limping with A10?

Blip

He's the table chip leader trying to see a cheap flop and hoping to hit, which he did, maybe a large RRPF or push would have taken it down if that was how the table was playing at the time.

When he called your flop bet you might have been able to put him on a range say rag A like yours/higher kicker or now a low set, checking the turn was an option, question is if he pushed would you have called anyway?

Hitman Actual

sumoward wrote:

i am wondering if any one has any insights into average chips and the number of BB you have as an indicator to how your doing?

To all intents and purposes, just ignore the average; I've never met a case where it matters. Just play your normal tournament game.

Washout

lenny_leonard wrote:

To all intents and purposes, just ignore the average; I've never met a case where it matters. Just play your normal tournament game.

I concor....you cannot play a game based on keeping one eye on table dynamics and the other on the chip average. just play the chips you have and try and maximise the return on them as best you can.

30something

Nothing wrong with the hand as played except I think I would have gone AI on the flop for 3 reasons:

1. You are OOP to table chip leader and this makes the hand awkward to play:
2. You are happy to take the pot now but dont mind a call with gazzillions of outs AND
3. By betting 25%+ of your stack here you are pot-committing yourself any way and can't really fold to a re-raise (not that you would with all those outs).

As it happens villan would probably have called the AI flop bet with TPTK and the result would be no different.

Cant blame him for calling pre flop with A10 other then I think he should have open raised.

sumoward

Blip wrote:

When he called your flop bet you might have been able to put him on a range say rag A like yours/higher kicker or now a low set, checking the turn was an option, question is if he pushed would you have called anyway?

good question. I probably would have called as I was on my 4th beer.