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Quick click.... who's victorious ??

  • 02-08-2007 09:08PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 404 ✭✭


    I find myself rooting for Hatton for the first time ever.

    Hatton or Mayweather ? 20 votes

    Ricky Hitman Hatton
    0%
    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    50%
    Big Earsraven136theonealancelticwalshbMBCdelrunsalad dodgerKing of Kingsprendy 10 votes
    Draw
    50%
    dlofnepBodhidharmaRealJohnThe Sparrownacho libresligobhoy67cowzerpmenoscemoastro51Kess73 10 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,594 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Draw
    I want Hatton to win but i don't see it happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Draw
    im up for Hatton but mayweather is just too good, cant see hatton survive 12!

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    i think hatton will do it. It'll be tough but i think hatton just outbox him and take it on points,.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭raven136


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    would love to see ricky do it but mayweather is too clever to stand and fight and i dont think ricky could live with his boxing skills.stranger things have happened though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    I think people may be underestimating Hatton's boxing ability and purely focusing on his assests or favorable traits(fitness, pressure and body punching)....His best asset is that he is a very hard man to actually box and keep at bay. He is NOT an easy man to outbox or nail cleanly. Floyd may well be surprised at this. He has a very good chin and always seems to be on TOP of his opponent. Floyd is going to have to be a whole lot better than he was V Oscar to really outbox Ricky and he will have to be prepared to be 100% busy for 36 solid minutes. He starts to clown and lie on ropes and he will find out that Hatton can seriously bang!!!!!...

    Neither man IMO has a real physical advantage. Floyd is really a blown up Lightweight and Hatton is a true 10 stone fighter. So as far as strength goes, as in pure physical strength, Hatton I believe has an advantage...

    Floyd has the speed and cuteness to possibly outbox Ricky, but does he have the pace required for 36 minutes to do this. He needs both and he also needs to ensure his torso is rock solid. Ricky is without doubt going to make PBF work harder and faster than he has ever done before... I think and hope Ricky does the JOB on PBF!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭theone


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    I think hatton will do it the disrespect some of the american "experts" are showing hatton is unbelievable.you'd think he never boxed before the way they are talking.Floyd is good but hatton will win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    cowzerp wrote:
    im up for Hatton but mayweather is just too good, cant see hatton survive 12!

    Okay I can understand the outclassing him and winning by a wide margin argument but you can't see Hatton surviving 12 ?

    Someone who's never been stopped and only down once(aswell as only being noticeably wobbled in one other fight) against a guy who has resonable but nothing more power . If it wasn't for Carlos 'Famoso' Hernandez I'd be able to give you the useless statistic that every fighter Mayweather has failed to stop(there has been 13 of them but Castillo went to the scorecards with him twice) has been stopped by someone else .

    5 stoppages in his last 13 fights(which takes on from after his most impressive stoppage against Corrales) doesn't indicate he's exactly bombing people out of there and when you consider those stoppages are Jesus Chavez , Philip N'Dou , Henry Brussels , Arturo Gatti and Sharmba Mitchell . Stoppage wins over Chavez and N'Dou were impressive to get but the rest weren't really .

    If Mayweather wins this by stoppage I'd say it'd almost definitely be because of a cut , he's not a puncher at Light-Welterweight or Welterweight .
    He may have totally outclassed Gatti but he never hurt him in the fight despite such a terrible beating , and Gatti was only dropped because he looked away to complain to the ref .

    And if you've both onto the this is Mayweather v Gatti II theory..........Hatton isn't a C class overated brawler with slow foot movement and a gameplan worse than what a 5 year old would come up with .

    Mayweather might stop him on cuts , but I'm fairly sure this one is going the distance .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Draw
    Hatton can take a punch alright and Mayweather is not exactly a big Whacker (that said either is Collazo). Rumours are that hatton will come in around 142, mind you mayweather is not a big welter either.
    I can only see a points victory for Mayweather unfortunately. Hatton will come out strong and might win a few but will generally look second class.
    Easy points win for Pretty Boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    Big Ears wrote:
    Okay I can understand the outclassing him and winning by a wide margin argument but you can't see Hatton surviving 12 ?

    Someone who's never been stopped and only down once(aswell as only being noticeably wobbled in one other fight) against a guy who has resonable but nothing more power . If it wasn't for Carlos 'Famoso' Hernandez I'd be able to give you the useless statistic that every fighter Mayweather has failed to stop(there has been 13 of them but Castillo went to the scorecards with him twice) has been stopped by someone else .

    5 stoppages in his last 13 fights(which takes on from after his most impressive stoppage against Corrales) doesn't indicate he's exactly bombing people out of there and when you consider those stoppages are Jesus Chavez , Philip N'Dou , Henry Brussels , Arturo Gatti and Sharmba Mitchell . Stoppage wins over Chavez and N'Dou were impressive to get but the rest weren't really .

    If Mayweather wins this by stoppage I'd say it'd almost definitely be because of a cut , he's not a puncher at Light-Welterweight or Welterweight .
    He may have totally outclassed Gatti but he never hurt him in the fight despite such a terrible beating , and Gatti was only dropped because he looked away to complain to the ref .

    And if you've both onto the this is Mayweather v Gatti II theory..........Hatton isn't a C class overated brawler with slow foot movement and a gameplan worse than what a 5 year old would come up with .

    Mayweather might stop him on cuts , but I'm fairly sure this one is going the distance .

    The only way Floyd TKO's Hatton is on cuts....Hatton has a solid chin and Floyd is no Tommy Hearns!!!!

    Both are small welters and Hatton I think will come in around 145, same as Floyd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Draw
    The more aggressive Hatton is the more he will be hit-im not saying mayweather is a 1 punch k o artist or that hatton has a bad chin but 8-9 rounds of accumalitive punches catch up on a fighter, for this reason Hatton can also win if he gets enough body shots in, it probably will go the distance but that depends on wheter mayweather wants to go the distance or not imo.
    The 1 thing with mayweather is that he does not care about putting on a show or pleasing fans so he will do it the easiest way he can.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    cowzerp wrote:
    The more aggressive Hatton is the more he will be hit-im not saying mayweather is a 1 punch k o artist or that hatton has a bad chin but 8-9 rounds of accumalitive punches catch up on a fighter, for this reason Hatton can also win if he gets enough body shots in, it probably will go the distance but that depends on wheter mayweather wants to go the distance or not imo.
    The 1 thing with mayweather is that he does not care about putting on a show or pleasing fans so he will do it the easiest way he can.

    Paul, you make it sound as if Ricky is gonna just keep walking into Floyd's punches all night. Hatton is a fierce hard fighter, but also he can be extremely clever and hard to nail clean. And with the pressure and stamina Ricky brings, Floyd will have to be on constant alert all night. I see Hatton being the busier fighter by far, effectively busy? I don't know yet, but he will not be hit all that easy by Floyd...Hatton hits harder IMO and I think he will take Floyd's best shots. Can Floyd be elusive enough and keep Hatton at bay, allowing him (Floyd) to be effective and dictative?....No man has done this to Hatton yet. Floyd is without doubt a class cat, but I believe we will see a whole new side to Hatton. He's a very clever man with a very clever CAMP behind him....If this fight is fought close, and in the trenches, there is only one winner. If Hatton fails to close the distance on PBF, he will lose...

    An intriguing matchup without doubt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭theone


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    I can't see hatton not being able to close the distance,people have been running from him since his amateur days and bigears commented about mayweathers quickness and not being able to move backwards as fast as hatton can move forwards and I have to agree with that(apologise if i'm reading into it wrong).

    Mayweather is quick and an amazing boxer,people are drawing comparisons to sugar ray and duran's first fight where duran is very similar in build to hattton and sugar ray to maywather.

    If this fight works out the same as that fight did hatton willl win the first fight but floyd is so disrespectful I can't see hatton giving him a re-match so no trilogy and maywather may not have the chance to avenge his defeat,finally his mouth has caught up with him :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    theone wrote:
    I can't see hatton not being able to close the distance,people have been running from him since his amateur days and bigears commented about mayweathers quickness and not being able to move backwards as fast as hatton can move forwards and I have to agree with that(apologise if i'm reading into it wrong).

    Mayweather is quick and an amazing boxer,people are drawing comparisons to sugar ray and duran's first fight where duran is very similar in build to hattton and sugar ray to maywather.

    If this fight works out the same as that fight did hatton willl win the first fight but floyd is so disrespectful I can't see hatton giving him a re-match so no trilogy and maywather may not have the chance to avenge his defeat,finally his mouth has caught up with him :D

    Interesting comparison to Leonard...

    If Floyd had Ray's power, he wipes the floor with Hatton. But Floyd does not come close to possessing Ray's firepower at welter. You need to really nail Ricky hard to be effective, otherwise he has the ability to walk thru or simply take your shots and get off with his own wicked body attack


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Draw
    Bren we'll have to have a little bet on who wins?

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    cowzerp wrote:
    Bren we'll have to have a little bet on who wins?
    Definitely...I know we both want Hatton to win.
    I'll go with Hatton, how he wins doesn't matter, though I think
    a TKO win could be a possibility.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭theone


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    walshb wrote:
    Interesting comparison to Leonard...

    If Floyd had Ray's power, he wipes the floor with Hatton. But Floyd does not come close to possessing Ray's firepower at welter. You need to really nail Ricky hard to be effective, otherwise he has the ability to walk thru or simply take your shots and get off with his own wicked body attack

    it's only a very loose comparison sugar ray is probably the best of all time and mayweather is good but nowhere near that good imo.

    hatton isn't as good as duran either(not yet anyway :) ) but there are some similarities

    If floyd was as good as sugar ray i don't think this thread would have been created let alone being debated :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    Draw
    I accept that Hatton is a good boxer but he's not on the same level for boxing as Mayweather. No way Mayweather will knock Hatton out (unless he gets lucky. Anyone can land one perfect shot) but I expect Mayweather to take a fairly handy decision.
    Hatton will be trying to put him under pressure for every second of all twelve rounds but in the end, Mayweather will be too quick and too precise.

    The only doubt in my mind comes from De La Hoya's performance against Mayweather because power is the only thing there that Hatton doesn't have over De La Hoya so he could play that game and do it better than De La Hoya (and in my opinion, Oscar lost because he got tired which probably wouldn't happen to Hatton). I also think that Mayweather had another gear that he didn't need against De La Hoya though and if I'm right, I don't think Hatton will be able to touch him.

    For the record, I'd like to see Hatton win it, I just don't think he will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,594 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Draw
    RealJohn wrote:
    I accept that Hatton is a good boxer but he's not on the same level for boxing as Mayweather. No way Mayweather will knock Hatton out (unless he gets lucky. Anyone can land one perfect shot) but I expect Mayweather to take a fairly handy decision.
    Hatton will be trying to put him under pressure for every second of all twelve rounds but in the end, Mayweather will be too quick and too precise.

    The only doubt in my mind comes from De La Hoya's performance against Mayweather because power is the only thing there that Hatton doesn't have over De La Hoya so he could play that game and do it better than De La Hoya (and in my opinion, Oscar lost because he got tired which probably wouldn't happen to Hatton). I also think that Mayweather had another gear that he didn't need against De La Hoya though and if I'm right, I don't think Hatton will be able to touch him.

    For the record, I'd like to see Hatton win it, I just don't think he will.

    do you think a peak Hatton is better than Castillo was in his prime? if you do Castillo's performance against Mayweather should give you encouragement that Hatton can win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭RaiseTheBlinds


    PB Mayfeather is boring to watch ,.... could be a case of ricky trying to hug and floyd running away from conflict.

    it may turn out to be a let-down of a fight. Mayweather is not the most attractive to watch, And whilst Ricky is exciting , he can deploy some frustrating tactics if things arent going his way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather
    i hope hatton does the business..
    maywether needs a good beating.


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