Hypo Q RE: AIPF 9 Handed

Fatboydim

Sure it's been asked before. But if at a nine handed table everyone went all in what would statistically be the best hand to hold. I'm thinking that suited connectors would hold up better than aces for example.

Or are the odds so skewed that the fractions would be minimal?

opr

Fatboydim wrote:

Sure it's been asked before. But if at a nine handed table everyone went all in what would statistically be the best hand to hold. I'm thinking that suited connectors would hold up better than aces for example.

Or are the odds so skewed that the fractions would be minimal?

OMFG !!!

Opr

jacQues

Fatboydim wrote:

Sure it's been asked before. But if at a nine handed table everyone went all in what would statistically be the best hand to hold. I'm thinking that suited connectors would hold up better than aces for example.

Or are the odds so skewed that the fractions would be minimal?

Odds stay the same. If you fraction them by means of adding more possibilities then they are smaller but still similar in relation to each other.

In plain English: AA will still be the favourite, although it gets marginal, towards a situation I would describe as pure gambling no matter what you have.

On the other hand, for double flop Texas hold'em in that situation I would indeed prefer J T suited.

jacQues
(Magical hamster)

ocallagh

jacQues wrote:

Odds stay the same. If you fraction them by means of adding more possibilities then they are smaller but still similar in relation to each other.

In plain English: AA will still be the favourite, although it gets marginal, towards a situation I would describe as pure gambling no matter what you have.

On the other hand, for double flop Texas hold'em in that situation I would indeed prefer J T suited.

jacQues
(Magical hamster)

I don't agree. AA can be a dog easily enough depending on what is out. AA will not perform as well as 55 in some situations.

Hand 0: 11.497% 11.48% 00.02% 23114 37.90 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 17.356% 17.35% 00.00% 34940 9.90 { 9d8d }
Hand 2: 00.019% 00.01% 00.00% 28 9.90 { KcKd }
Hand 3: 10.817% 10.35% 00.47% 20834 949.40 { AsKs }
Hand 4: 00.777% 00.31% 00.47% 615 949.40 { AcKh }
Hand 5: 13.025% 13.02% 00.00% 26219 9.90 { 4c4h }
Hand 6: 15.052% 15.05% 00.00% 30301 9.90 { 5c5h }
Hand 7: 10.338% 10.00% 00.33% 20144 673.90 { QdQs }
Hand 8: 08.795% 08.46% 00.33% 17037 673.90 { QhJh }
Hand 9: 12.325% 12.32% 00.00% 24810 9.90 { 7c6c }

Ste05

you can add in different combo's of hands to make basically any hand the best one, so yeah, as ocallagh it depends on what you're up against, but if this situation ever somehow managed to come up. (e.g. an agreement before hand, say 1 hand of Blind Hold 'Em) I'll take AA each and everytime.

ocallagh

ok, sry. yeah against 8 random hands AA is fav. In fact against any number of random hands AA is fav.

Against 8 hands that looked and shoved I would prefer 6c7c or maybe 22

Shadowless

The most likely case (maybe)

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.137% 32.10% 00.03% 5402482632 5886000.00 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 07.972% 07.94% 00.03% 1335758526 5886000.00 { AhKh }
Hand 2: 07.972% 07.94% 00.03% 1335758526 5886000.00 { AsKs }
Hand 3: 00.362% 00.01% 00.35% 2142720 58828320.00 { QQ }
Hand 4: 00.362% 00.01% 00.35% 2142720 58828320.00 { QQ }
Hand 5: 22.372% 21.84% 00.54% 3674886156 90114444.00 { 76s }
Hand 6: 16.312% 16.06% 00.25% 2702593296 42514056.00 { JTs }
Hand 7: 00.018% 00.00% 00.02% 0 3029040.00 { KK }
Hand 8: 12.492% 11.72% 00.77% 1972586664 129599460.00 { random }

Fatboydim

In practice I've seen it - Where for example there are limited seats in a tournament and it's been decided who plays by dealing everyone a hand and then a flop, turn and river. [The winner then pays into the tournament.]

The sample is too small but ten hands x ten. Pocket pairs as high as kings always seemed to fall against 74 or some other crap.

If nine players are all in all the time the median hand I'm pretty certain would be a straight. IE: One pair / Two pair and a set are going to lose more often.

So would connectors then have more value?