Final Table Dilemma

Quball15

Im a long time lurker, first post of many i hope.


final table of 5$ buy in tournament, 6 left out of 464, i am 5th in chips. 6th place has an M of 1. I have an M of about 4.5. The rest have M's of over 10ish. (I know we're shorthanded so M's are different but doesn't really matter for this argument)

I'm in big blind, small stack goes all-in utg+1. folded around to me (which was surprising as previous few small stacks were knocked out by two big stacks calling and checking it down to eliminate them).

The difference in prize money is 6th=$228 and 5th is $288.

I only have to put in another 9200ish pot is 49000ish. So i have 5.3 to 1 pot odds. I hold 8c5h, trash. but according to pokerstove its only 41% against a random hand.




I haven't figured out how to convert a hand properly from ipoker. I just got this from pokeroffice.apologies if its not so easy to read.

Starting a new hand (#1044938730)
Texas Holdem NL 8000/16000 - 2007-08-01 19:19:57 Server
Table $5,500 Guaranteed, 81800314 Trny: $5+$0.50 ID: 686881201 Place: 6
Seat 4: riku51063 ( 582,956 )
Seat 5: BADBOYASSASIN ( 353,178 )
Seat 7: JMC85 ( 263,747 )
Seat 8: Hero ( 113,853.50 )
Seat 9: weegers ( 356,037.50 )
Seat 10: Wally12 ( 25,228 )
JMC85 posts Small Blind 8000
Hero posts Big Blind 16000
Dealing cards
Your cards 8c 5h [Hero]
weegers folds
Wally12 goes All-in 25228
riku51063 folds
BADBOYASSASIN folds
JMC85 folds
Hero calls 9228
Dealing Flop Td 3s Jd
Dealing Turn Td 3s Jd 6s
Dealing River Td 3s Jd 6s Kc
Wally12 shows Ah Kd
Winner is Wally12 58456
#EOG

My question is, is this an easy call to try knock him out at good value or is there an argument for folding to wait for a better spot in which case he would steal the blinds and have an M of 2. Then wait for either the blinds to hit him or wait for myslef to have a decent hand to shove with, since i am also a small stack.

thanks for any replies:)

5starpool

Easy call. What cards you have here are irrelevant. There is way too much in there for you to pass.

Hitman Actual

Yeah, call with any 2. This is never a fold.

RasTa

What the heck is M?

jimmii

M is the amount you pay in ante & blinds in one orbit.

This is a call with any two if you work out the EV is massively in your favour. Even if you lose the others have FE against a shove from you.

Hitman Actual

RasTa wrote:

What the heck is M?

M = Your Stack Size/(Blinds + Antes).

Basically it's how many rounds you have left at the table if you didn't played a hand. Harrington has a whole 'M' system for when you should start pushing in tournaments, etc.

The rest of us just use Stack-to-BB ratio.

Quball15

thanks for all the replies, i thought it was an easy call but since i lost and ended up in 6th i questioned the decision and wanted to make sure :-)

valor

lenny_leonard wrote:

Yeah, call with any 2. This is never a fold.

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LuckyLloyd

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