tricky spot on the turn

Hawk Eye

Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: All_Rigged ( $214.55 USD )
Seat 3: Hero ( $380.05 USD )
Seat 2: poiuytr666 ( $478.93 USD )
Seat 1: MrW0nderful9 ( $364.65 USD )
Seat 4: AkkezdetPhia ( $239.85 USD )
Seat 6: Ekahr ( $220.97 USD )
AkkezdetPhia posts small blind [$1 USD].
All_Rigged posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qh Kh ] Button
Ekahr raises [$7 USD]
MrW0nderful9 folds.
Hero calls [$7 USD]
AkkezdetPhia folds.
All_Rigged folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Jh, Th ]
Ekahr bets [$9 USD]
Hero raises [$32 USD]
Ekahr calls [$23 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
Ekahr checks.
Hero ???

Theres $81 in the pot and $182 effective left behind. I'm not sure if theres merit to betting here as I expect villain to only call or check raise 2 pair or better, his range off the flop is probably AJ,KJ,KQ,QJ,Q9,98 and maybe Ahxh. Doubt he calls the flop raise with anything worse and prob reraises sets and top two.

phantom_lord

standard check i would have thought?

RoundTower

against that range it looks like you should bet/call shove

valor

check, not close

fold pf aswell and thats not close either

mrflash

ok i am editing this post as i misread the hand and thought the board had paired. you now have top pair, aq is a danger. but you have a flush draw and you are also drawing to the nuts which is a comfort however little. but anyhow. in this instance i would definitely be betting about 3/4 pot size. and i would be ready to call any move over the top.

mdwexford

whats your preflop calling range here valor??

i do prefer to check that turn

valor

mrflash wrote:

check and be happy you are getting a free card as you might very well be on a 2 percent chance of winning.

what?

opr

mdwexford wrote:

whats your preflop calling range here valor??

Edited : i thought this was 2/4 , Valor surely calling with KQsuited this deep on the button is ok ?

Opr

opr

mrflash wrote:

check and be happy you are getting a free card as you might very well be on a 2 percent chance of winning.

HJ your right MrFlash may just be the product of our collective subconsciousness

Opr

mdwexford

opr wrote:

Yeah i wondered about this but then i looked at the hand and the guy is an EP raiser and has only has just over 50bb so calling here is pretty bad.

Opr

he has 110 bbs

opr

mdwexford wrote:

he has 110 bbs

Yeah sorry i edited the post just after i posted, im an idiot too.

Opr

phantom_lord

i keep thinking he's trolling, but there's no way someone could keep it up this long!

mrflash

valor wrote:

what?

excuse me, i misread, i was sure the board had paired. i have edited my thoughts as well

Hectorjelly

opr wrote:

Edited : i thought this was 2/4 , Valor surely calling with KQsuited this deep on the button is ok ?

Opr

it makes no difference how deep we are, the other guy only has 100bbs. I think calling preflop is fine though.

valor

PF is ok suited, for some reason I thought it was o/s which does make quite a big difference for callign here

opr

Hectorjelly wrote:

it makes no difference how deep we are, the other guy only has 100bbs. I think calling preflop is fine though.

Yeah orginally i thought he only has 50bb but realised it should have been ok this deep with effective stacks of 100bb.

Edited : This is a load of tosh and what i meant to say is when referring to us being deep i am always talking in relation to effective stacks.

Opr

mrflash

valor wrote:

PF is ok suited, for some reason I thought it was o/s which does make quite a big difference for callign here

oh, so you misread as well

valor

yes, we are both retarded and bad at poker.

mrflash

valor wrote:

yes, we are both retarded and bad at poker.

fuzzbox

Dont listen to the naysayers - bet the turn.

Hectorjelly

I dont think this turn is tricky, our hand is so strong we can be happy to bet and call his all in.

RoundTower

valor wrote:

PF is ok suited, for some reason I thought it was o/s which does make quite a big difference for callign here

does that change your answer for the turn?

Ste05

LOL, did anyone read this post correctly... I don't think I've ever seen so many: "oops, missed that, edited my post" LOL

I bet the turn and the call PF is fine IMO

valor

All my posts in this thread are based on me thinking we had KQo, I didnt realise we had OESFD and now top pair

phantom_lord

lol, i didn't realise he had a fd as well. i'd bet the turn so.

Slash/ED

Take it from a bracelet holder hawk eye I'd bet the turn and call any a shove if it comes to it.