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  • 01-08-2007 3:34pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭


    H1
    HU in a e50 plus 50 tournament. 1st prize is 1300, and second is 800.

    I have been chip leader, lost a race by calling an all in with 99 vs Q10o against villain, and worked back up from about 8 to 15 BB by push or folding. He has about 26 BB. Given huge blinds, how do you play KQo from button?


    H2
    1/3 PL cash, full ring lose table. I have a tight image.

    Button [Very active pre flop. Can’t fold top pair no kicker – stack has swung from 400-1200]. Stack 600.
    Shortie. Asian gamblor. Stack 50.
    MP 1. Young quiet dude. No reads. Stack 400.
    MP 2. Tight image. Stack 300.

    Button raises to 12. [This means any face card or 2 pretty cards]. He would pot it with a big pair or AK type hand.

    I call from mid position with 7c8c. 5 to flop. [Pot 65].

    Flop: 9c 10x Jc

    Checked to button who bets 24. Shortie pushes for last 37. MP 1 flat calls 37. I know button will call the 13. Pot is now 165. Is re-raising here too strong?


    H3
    100 FO at Galway races. Table is reasonable tournament players whose game I don’t know. 50/100 level. Stacks all around 6 k.

    Early position raise to 300, I call on button with 33, with the big blind, and 1 other.

    Flop: A 2 4 rainbow. [Pot now 1225].
    Checked to me. I check.

    Turn a 4. Big blind bets 600, raiser calls, I call. [Pot now 3025]

    River a 3. Big blind bets 800. Initial raiser raises to 2400. Action to me, and comments on all streets appreciated.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    #1 raise obv
    #2 i raise to like 100 or so, make it look like ur trying to isolate. a lead is good on this flop
    #3 shove, I would fold on the turn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,951 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Hand 1 - raise

    Hand 2 - i would reraise it here.

    Hand 3 - not sure why u called on the bet on the turn, BB could easily have some sort of a 4, and now tbh u have to call cause what else where u hoping for when calling the turn bet...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    What valor said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    1. it's now a crapshoot, raise ~ 4 BBs and call a shove

    2. raise to 125

    3. shove like a mad shoving fool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Jaden


    con_leche wrote:
    H3
    100 FO at Galway races. Table is reasonable tournament players whose game I don’t know. 50/100 level. Stacks all around 6 k.

    Early position raise to 300, I call on button with 33, with the big blind, and 1 other.

    Flop: A 2 4 rainbow. [Pot now 1225].
    Checked to me. I check.

    Turn a 4. Big blind bets 600, raiser calls, I call. [Pot now 3025]

    River a 3. Big blind bets 800. Initial raiser raises to 2400. Action to me, and comments on all streets appreciated.

    I was the UTG +1 raiser in this hand. (You should have said you were a boardsie!).

    I'd be very interested in what people think. I was surprised by the final action. Still thinking about it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    Hand 1. "

    Hand 2. Im presuming the action is slightly incorrect as you should not have an option to raise due to an under-raise but i raise if i have the option.

    Hand 3. "


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭con_leche


    H1
    I raised to something like 4.5 BB. He shoved with AJ, I felt committed to calling and lost the race.

    Is it better to just raise about 2.5-3 BB here, making the hand easier to get away from, since even Ace little beats you, and KQ is not a great hand to call an all in with?


    H2
    So I check raised the flop to something like 125, everyone folds.
    Is this the worst option out of leading flop, check calling or check raising?


    H3
    I just smooth call the river, since I though the raisers check on the flop was fishy. He tables AA for a better house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    con_leche wrote:
    H3
    I just smooth call the river, since I though the raisers check on the flop was fishy. He tables AA for a better house.

    how do you sleep at night with all those monsters lurking under your bed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭strewelpeter


    con_leche wrote:
    H3
    I just smooth call the river, since I though the raisers check on the flop was fishy. He tables AA for a better house.
    WP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭con_leche


    1. Early position raiser.

    2. He checked an A hi flop. DID NOT C-BET.

    3. He smooth called a bet on the turn on a safe board.

    4. He raised a bet into him on a paired board on the river to extract value on his hand.


    I think the time for me to fold was on the turn.

    I called thinking I am probably ahead 50% of the time and probably behind 50 % of the time, getting about 3:1 on my money. If I raise the river what am I called by?

    I am interested in hearing more discussion here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    con_leche wrote:
    I called thinking I am probably ahead 50% of the time and probably behind 50 % of the time, getting about 3:1 on my money..

    how the hell did you get to this thought?

    you have assigned him a range of precisely AA, 44, xx, xx?

    This is mad....I would shove every time here and expect to be ahead 95%+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭Marq


    lolathon. flat calling the river in H3 is so retardedly awful, not for this "half your stack in the middle" coddleflop, but because you called the turn with a hand that could pretty much only beat a complete bluff from 2 players, then called down when you hit the absolute best card in the deck for your hand.

    Why on earth would you call the turn if you were going to play this passively when you hit the only card that improves your hand?
    If you hadn't hit a three would you have folded to all bets on the river?
    This is hemouraging chips.

    There are realistically only three hands that beat you and none of them are that likely given the action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    'haemorrhage'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    WP
    no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Jaden


    When I played this hand, I really didn't know what the poster was holding. I thought it might be 66-99 or AQ, as they are the type of hands I would expect a call on the button from, after an EP raise.

    As it played, I would probably fold 33 Preflop to an EP raise. There's just not enough long term profit to it.

    I would almost certainly either folded or raised all-in on the turn, and certainly would have pushed the river.


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