Pharoahe Monch --- Desire

Sm0ke

I dont know if theres been any threads on this so im gonna throw my 2 cents on this album!

First off, after an 8 month Hiatus Monch comes back as if he never left! The album has some great production and a melee of enjoyable tracks! I'm loving "Push", "Body Baby" "the Trilogy", "let's Go" and the "stray Bullet" follow up "when the Gun Draws" ,there is so little I can fault this album on I love it from start to finish. there might be to many horns in the music for some people but it adds to the overall ambience of the album. I still personally prefer Internal affairs but that could be because I've been listening to that for years!

4.9/5 instant Classic

Orizio

Its pretty ****e imo.The majority of the album is almost completely forgettable, outside of the two standouts Desire and the hidden and old Agent Orange.Other then those( Push and Gun Draws are alright as well ), the production is plain average and Monch seems to be doing a Nas and not really giving a damn throughout.

Forget about Desire, get the whole Organised Konfusion catalogue, when Monch was one of the best MC's around.

spacecoyote

Have to agree with you Oriz....about the Organized Konfusion comment...but not the rest! The first couple of listens of Desire i really enjoyed....today was the first time i listened to it on my mp3 and gave it my full attention, and whereas it isn't quite up there with Internal Affairs, it is an excellent album imo...and was worth the wait. The weight of expectation on this album, given its been a long long long time comin could have worked against it, as most Monch fans were so hyped up for the release, but i stand by my opinion that it has pretty much lived up to my expectations

Orizio

spacecoyote wrote:

Have to agree with you Oriz....

Excellent, excellent...Good to hear it. I'm glad you agree that anyone who makes tracks as bad as Body Baby and Bar Trap should be mocked and humiliatated at every opportunity.

Common's newest is not exactly bowling me over with its brilliance either.

Evzer

I think its class enough. Not as good as internal affairs but as good if not better then anything else that's came out this year..good hip-hop albums are thin on the ground these days. As for releasing body baby, he brought the album out on universal records..they needed at least one radio-worthy single.. besides its a good enough tune.

Raekwon

You are a hard man to please Orizio

I personally think that Desire is a very solid album even though if I was to be over-critical I would say that the production is slightly bland in places. The highlights for me are 'Let's Go', 'Welcome to the Terrordome' & 'Desire'. The only track on the album that I didn't feel was 'Bar Tap', Black Milk's production is (surprisingly) woeful on this track especially compared to the other track he produced (Let's Go).

On a side note, I saw Pharoahe live in Dublin a few weeks ago and I was blown-away, it actual made this album sound even better after seeing that gig.

As for Common's Finding Forever, I think it is a great album, Kanye's production is superb and it seems to get better after repeat listens.

All is forgiven after the less then stellar Be

Orizio

Evzer wrote:

I think its class enough. Not as good as internal affairs but as good if not better then anything else that's came out this year..good hip-hop albums are thin on the ground these days. As for releasing body baby, he brought the album out on universal records..they needed at least one radio-worthy single.. besides its a good enough tune.

Try the Lifesavas, Cap D, Jazzy Jeff, Marco Polo, Wax Tailor, Common, Shameless, Dalek, Brother Ali albums...

Bad year as it has been, Desire is practically bottom of the pile.And it possible to make a good single for the radio without it being incredibly annoying.

Evzer

I have a few of those albums i dont think there all too amazing.different strokes i guess..but shameless? seriously? he's the biggest jafaican on the mic.

Orizio

Evzer wrote:

I have a few of those albums i dont think there all too amazing.different strokes i guess..but shameless? seriously? he's the biggest jafaican on the mic.

A what?

Nothing wrong with Shameless' album, well produced and from the heart. And I never said they were amazing, just better the Desire.

Sm0ke

Orizio wrote:

Try the Lifesavas, Cap D, Jazzy Jeff, Marco Polo, Wax Tailor, Common, Shameless, Dalek, Brother Ali albums...

Bad year as it has been, Desire is practically bottom of the pile.And it possible to make a good single for the radio without it being incredibly annoying.

Lmfao

u really are one of "those" people me and a mate of mine were talking about the other day.

typical **** that happens on all boards, throw out some underground names or some obscure rappers name and then that proves that you must know hip hop really well. pfffffffff.....

fair deuce.


and that was me being bitter cause im really enjoying the new album sorry for the hate

Makaveli

Jazzy Jeff and Common, obscure? What?

Orizio

Sm0ke wrote:

Lmfao

u really are one of "those" people me and a mate of mine were talking about the other day.

typical **** that happens on all boards, throw out some underground names or some obscure rappers name and then that proves that you must know hip hop really well. pfffffffff.....

fair deuce.


and that was me being bitter cause im really enjoying the new album sorry for the hate

Right, right. Desire is still ****e though. Now be a good lad and go get Lifesavas dope new album.

For any Monch fans, he guests on the new fairly decent Polyrhythm addicts album.

Beefeater

I think saying Desire is a sh*te album is very harsh. Pharoahe was always going to find it hard to live up to Internal Affairs and his OK days. Lyrically, he's not as good but still pretty dope. He's trying to broaden his sound(not in a bad way), and I dont think the production is very bland as such. Bar Tap is crap, but there arent really any other bad songs on it. Desire, Trilogy, How We Roll are brilliant. I think people dont like Body Baby cause it is so "Not Pharoahe Monch". So what that its on tv and he looks fairly ridiculous, its way better than most hip hop on tv. I'd give it 7 out of 10 i'd say.