Advice wanted micro limit hand...(novice)

buck65

playing .5/.10 NL Holdem party poker

I'm BB with Kc 8c

villain raises to .30c , I call, everyone else folds, (villain seems a bit LAG from previous hands , usually I would fold here)

flop

Jc, 7c, 7s

villain raises €3, I call

turn card = 3d
villain raises €2, I call

river 10c
villain raises €7 all in

what do I do here?
how have I played the hand so far.

meathman 007

personally, i dont like calling to hit a flush on a paired board - especially if its not to the nut flush......

Shadowless

You should say what position the villan raised from.

Fold Pre-flop
Fold Flop
On the river now that you've hit you've gotta call.

Mr.Plough

i assume you were just calling on flop/turn to hit. he bets 3 into a pot of 0.60

you should know yourself you have nowhere near the odds to call there

on the river, call.

why would you call flop and turn bets if you going to fold when you hit?

edit they shadowless got there first

5starpool

You really should not be calling a raise preflop with K8 out of position, no matter how this guy is playing. Also, on the flop he bets 3 into a pot of .65? This is a massive overbet. You have a non nut flush draw on a paired board. You are around 2/1ish to make your flush by the river, around 4/1 now, including the times the board pairs. You are getting nowhere near that price. Fold the flop.

Having called the flop bet, he bets 2 into a pot of 6.65 (not including rake). You are around 4/1 again to make it on the next card. You are getting the right price now, but have to accept that he may already have a house now, or might make it on the river if you hit your flush. At this point a call is ok.

River, you hit your card, he bets 7 into a pot of 10.65. You have to call. Why else were you in the hand?

So in summary.
Fold Preflop
Fold Flop (although you shouldn't be there)
Call Turn (although you reallly, really, shouldn't be there)
Call River (although you reallly, really, shouldn't be there)

buck65

he raised from small blind,

I had been card dead for ages and was losing a few euro here and there to this guy, to be honest he was bullying me from late positions all day and I felt his re raise was over the top and was there to intimidate me out of the pot again.

5starpool

buck65 wrote:

he raised from small blind,

I had been card dead for ages and was losing a few euro here and there to this guy, to be honest he was bullying me from late positions all day and I felt his re raise was over the top and was there to intimidate me out of the pot again.

This being the case you should have shoved over the top of his flop bet, or reraised him preflop. The way to stop these guys is to reraise them, not call them down. This way they can tailor their game to you very easily.

Ace2007

so basically what ur sayin is ur takin his play personally and really want to get him with any 2 cards.... you won't win much in poker if you let ur emotions get the better of you.... as 5starpool said just fold

Shadowless

buck65 wrote:

he raised from small blind,

This makes things a little better. I don't mind the call so much in position although a raise is better.
When he bets €3 into the pot of 60c on the flop I normally fold but if he really has been runnin you over I think a shove is good here.
For Metagame (at .05/.10 ) reasons as much as any.

buck65

fair point Ace2007 but with 4 clubs , with 2 cards to come I felt I couldn't walk away , I guess my head was spinning a little at that stage, being a newbie you're trying to work pot odds , and also what your up against.
I'm aware that my play was scrappy and dodgy but it was one of those hands when you're into it before you really know what happened.


btw thanks for the advice guys

Rickyroma

buck65 wrote:

but it was one of those hands when you're into it before you really know what happened.


btw thanks for the advice guys

Stay at this level until you are completely comfortable with the odds (both pot and % to hit your outs) involved. If you keep analysing your play and listening to advice this will soon become second nature.

Cardplayer has a odds calculator that you can mess around with, get familiar with how the various hands rate against each other- ie flush draw vs overpair, OESD v top pair, and check the calls you make against this after your session.

gosplan

Shadowless wrote:

This makes things a little better. I don't mind the call so much in position although a raise is better.
When he bets €3 into the pot of 60c on the flop I normally fold but if he really has been runnin you over I think a shove is good here.
For Metagame (at .05/.10 ) reasons as much as any.

I'd agree expect for the levels. IMO many players at these levels are bluff proof and I'd say a shove would be called by any 7, half-decent J, QQ, KK or AA (which I'm betting he has).

buck65

he turned a 7 to make trips
i won the pot but realise I was lucky.

Rb

5starpool wrote:

This being the case you should have shoved over the top of his flop bet, or reraised him preflop. The way to stop these guys is to reraise them, not call them down. This way they can tailor their game to you very easily.

I agree.
If you've only $10 or 100BBs, and he bets 30BBs, shove.

RedJoker

Ace2007 wrote:

so basically what ur sayin is ur takin his play personally and really want to get him with any 2 cards.... you won't win much in poker if you let ur emotions get the better of you.... as 5starpool said just fold

nice post.