SB v BB Value Bet River??

Ste05

Does anyone play the flop differently and what do you do on the River.

6 Handed: I'd have a solid enough image, maybe slightly Loose and aggressive but nothing too maniacal, although I think my stats on this table were about 30/26/(infinity) over about 30 hands or so. He was on 2 of my tables and I'd think he'd have me around 24/18 or so... I was playing really tight on other table.

At this stage I didn't have much of a read except that I didn't see him do anything stupid so I presume he's solid enough. He was on about 2 of my tables but I didn't check if he was playing any more tables, but I'd think he probably was:

So what do people like on the River and how much do you bet if you bet:

Folded to SB
Seat 5: Villain ($207.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Ste05 ($205.10 in chips)
Villain: Post SB $1.00
Ste05: Post BB $2.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ste05 [Jc 7d]
Villain: Call $1.00
Ste05: Check
*** FLOP *** [8h 7h Jh] POT: $4
Villain: Bet $4.00
Ste05: Call $4.00
*** TURN *** [2s] POT: $12
Villain: Check
Ste05: Bet $8.00
Villain: Call $8.00
*** RIVER *** [5d] POT: $28
Villain: Check
Ste05???

Apologies if this is an obvious hand, but I haven't been able to play much lately and I thought it was semi interesting as I was making my decision.

BrandonBlock

He missed his flush = Insta Shovaroonies

Edit, actually in the situation I'd min-bet to see where ya stand, looks like ya have the hand won though.

valor

yes and its not remotely close

flop call is ok I guess, bet more like $10.50 on the turn

as played, bet $24

phantom_lord

22.

Edit, actually in the situation I'd min-bet to see where ya stand, looks like ya have the hand won though.

you could just check instead.

mrflash

i check, dangerous flop, you could very well be behind, not worth the risk of betting, he might be slow playing, i'd be happy enough to take it down without a bet.

BrandonBlock

did he insta-call your bet on the turn?

valor

god there are some idiots posting on here

Lafortezza

valor wrote:

god there are some idiots posting on here

Attack posts not posters, ty.

Captain Tom

yeah really easy bet. $24 sounds good.

Ste05

Do people not think 24 or 22 is too much?? I know the bet decision isn't close, I was more interested in the amount to bet. [EDIT: I bet $18 but just looking at the pot size again, actually 22 or 24 would have been better probably...]

Also on the flop I didn't want to raise because I don't think I could stand a push/ re-raise and along with a flush/ set I think the Ah and possibly Kh could push, it's just a situation I didn't want to put myself into.

And on the turn again I thought a bigger bet would look too strong and not allow me to value bet the River again extracting more money. So I was hoping to make the turn bet look weak so I could extract more on the River (if he called the turn) I would have had some respect for this guys game and would have thought a pot turn bet followed by a decent River bet would only be called by a better hand (set, etc.)

ocallagh

I prefer to raise the turn. He's more likely to make a mistake and put more money in as an 80% dog. If he calls you can check behind on the river whatever happens.

edit: i'm an idiot and I see he checked the turn and you bet. As Valor said, may as well bet as much as you think you can get away with. I value bet river... about 20 or so.

bops

18 - 20

bops

what woud you do if he CRAI otr??

ocallagh

bops wrote:

what woud you do if he CRAI otr??

fold

what would you do if he min raised your river value bet?

Macspower

Definately value bet... there are a lot of hand that he will check /call the river that you are beating...

I'm betting 22 and folding to a push...

Mac.

bops

ocallagh wrote:

fold

what would you do if he min raised your river value bet?

ok push is a bit silly - but only as silly as asking what to do if he min-raises!!

ocallagh

bops wrote:

ok push is a bit silly - but only as silly as asking what to do if he min-raises!!

no - your question wasn't silly! mine was a genuines question too.

bops

lol you just bust my sarcometer again

Ste05

CRAI - Fold

Min CR - Instacall

CR upto 50 or 60 call and expect to see Ah enough to be profitable.

valor

I would fold to any raise on the river without a read