Finished with poker but did i do much wrong.....

meathman 007

I dont have the stomach for poker anymore, gonna withdraw what i have left and maybe come back to it next year....... heres the 2 hands that just compounded the day of bad beats ive just had: both of them came back to back
Just wondering if i played the hands alright - not that its the slightest comfort..... i know these hands happen but i just couldnt be arsed grinding everyday and losing my entire stack like below. I got my roll up to over 3000 but i think ill just take a holiday!
This the first time really i played everyday for a sustained period of time.... i admire people that have the patience to deal with the setbacks, really does require a certain personality to make a living from online poker...


Hand1:

Paddy Power Poker "TURBO" Monroe 1/2, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button jaegeri ($197)
SB FlopMaster1 ($386.38)
BB Hero ($436.11)
UTG harrav ($224.35)
UTG+1 FrogFisher ($312.95)
CO GGrinderr ($228.30)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 8s 9h
harrav calls 2, 3 folds, FlopMaster1 calls 1, Hero checks.

Flop (6) 7c Jh Tc
FlopMaster1 checks, Hero bets 8, harrav raises to 16, 1 fold, Hero raises to 45, harrav calls 37.

Turn (112) 4d
Hero bets 85, harrav calls 85.

River (282) 4c
Hero moves all-in for 296.11, harrav moves all-in for 84.35

harrav shows 2c 3c
Hero shows 8s 9h

harrav wins 662.46 with Flush (Clubs) with Ten high

Hand 2:

Paddy Power Poker "TURBO" Monroe 1/2, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button FlopMaster1 ($384.38)
SB Hero ($211.76)
BB harrav ($447.70)
UTG FrogFisher ($312.95)
UTG+1 GGrinderr ($228.30)
CO jaegeri ($197)

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Qc Qh
2 folds, jaegeri calls 2, FlopMaster1 calls 2, Hero raises to 25, harrav calls 24, jaegeri calls 24, 1 fold.

Flop (80) 5h 3s 4h
Hero moves all-in for 185.76, 1 fold, jaegeri moves all-in for 171.

Turn (436.76) 6d

River (436.76) 3c

jaegeri shows 2s 2c
Hero shows Qc Qh

jaegeri wins 436.76 with A straight, Six high

Mr.Plough

hard to tell when you dont know what the suits are. i think you should have started lower than 1/2 online tbh

RoadSweeper

no suits, cant really see 1st hand in its glory

Hand two

whats with the open push?

You only get called by a hand that beats you or a monster draw.

Maybe the flop is all the same suit, but then you only get called by a hand that beats you still (i learned recently)

Although his call is generally poor, you shouldnt open push.

meathman 007

hands updated now, second hand, guy to my right was complete fish and was playing everysingle hand, so i push because i know he will call with a massive range of hands that i have him beat - and of course they could put me on an ak tilt bluff.....

RoadSweeper

hand 1 is a BB

Buddy list him

jtsuited

both hands should not be sickening you that much. they are certainly not bad beats by anyone's standards.
second hand- looks like the guy was up for a gamble. Buddy list the guy and get it back. it shouldn't take long.
Also, i think he may have put you on AK/AQ with the 14*bb raise (looks like you don't want to play your hand. And i'm really not a fan of the open push on the flop.
I lost so much money with overpairs on flops like these by doing this.

meathman 007

yea i know they are not horrific bad beats, but just sickening pots to lose. The first pot was against a guy who was literally playing every hand, calling every raise etc etc.... so i sat there waiting to get my money in against him in great shape - its just situations like that, that put me right off poker. Ive built up big stacks so many times over the past couple of years both live and online only to lose it all in a massive pot to a so called 'bad beat'. As i said i obviously dont have the personality to brush these things aside so i thinks it best i leave it for a while...

Macspower

nothing much wrong in thise two hands.

Biggest mistake you made was not taking the advice given and drop down levels ...http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055126341

Anyway your doing the right thing now... enjoy the holliday

meathman 007

yea thanks for the advice mac - probly was the logical move. Still i turned a 5 dollar token into 3015 dollars in just over 2 weeks, must do the same thing next summer and get myself another free holiday - if only i was that simple and i had the patience for the game!

Macspower

well done on the great spin up..... hollier for a 5er.....

mrflash

unlucky in both, but i agree with earlier post on second hand, no reason to push there, you only get called by a better hand.

Samba

Both these hands are horror stories imo.

Hand one approx. 300 of your 400+ stack went in on the river on a paired and completed flush board :eek:

Hand 2. O.k you were unlucky that he hit the straight but then again I think you were v.lucky to be up against a pair of 2's the range of hands that call huge over bets all have you crushed.

Jesus Wept

Breaks are good

meathman 007

Samba wrote:

Both these hands are horror stories imo.

Hand one approx. 300 of your 400+ stack went in on the river on a paired and completed flush board :eek:

Hand 2. O.k you were unlucky that he hit the straight but then again I think you were v.lucky to be up against a pair of 2's the range of hands that call huge over bets all have you crushed.

horror stories are u for real?

hand 1- i had the nuts on turn and had built the pot to about 300 - i only effectively pushed for another 84.35 on the river..... against the villain, this guy was an incredible fish and has just doubled through by calling a 35 dollar reraise before the flop with q3 offsuit and hitting trips - so i am happy with the push on the river considering the massive range of hands he would have called with....... id just pissed off he called on the turn with a 3 high flush draw and of course he hit

hand 2 - came directly after hand 1 - theres 80 in the pot so its well worth taken down - my 2 opponents are complete fish and will call off their chips with almost anything - they are probobly putting me on stone tilt after the last hand.. so i think they will call me with a massive range of hands that i have beat....... in normal circumcances its a bad push - but considering the last hand and my opponments i dont think its a bad play......as it happened he puts all his money in with the idiot end of an open end straight draw and of course he hits...

Samba

just bet to cover him

Didn't see his all in was 85, tbh i sifted through the thread and my eyes popped out when i saw the all in on the river.

O.k...we'll give you hand 1.

I tend to read threads lightly when i see bb hhs

As rigger said, take a break.

RedJoker

Wow unlucky.

Glad you're doing the right thing.

If you do decide to go back to poker; realise that you overbet monster hands (like you did here) and underbet when you're bluffing (86 hand). You should cut this out because observant opponents will notice this and exploit you.

luckylucky

RedJoker wrote:

If you do decide to go back to poker; realise that you overbet monster hands (like you did here) and underbet when you're bluffing (86 hand). You should cut this out because observant opponents will notice this and exploit you.

I didn't read anywhere that meathman always overbetted his monsters - so not sure why you assume that because he has done it here that he always does it? by the sound of things given the opponents involved it sounds fine to me on this occasion.

when things go bad for you in poker, then if the pain is too much, it's a clear sign you're playing at a level or two two high, like others have suggested. Take your break and when you come back give yourself a bit of breathing space in terms of your bankroll.

good Luck.

RedJoker

luckylucky wrote:

I didn't read anywhere that meathman always overbetted his monsters - so not sure why you assume that because he has done it here that he always does it? by the sound of things given the opponents involved it sounds fine to me on this occasion.

I've seen 4 hands he's played. 2 of them he had monsters and overbet the flop ($8 into $6) in one and in the other he overbet preflop ($25 raise where $12 would be standard) and overbet the flop ($171 into $80). One hand he was bluffing and bet $8 into a $22 pot on the flop and $9 into a $34 pot on the turn.

Now obv he might not always do this but it seems like a fairly big coincidence and if I was playing against him I'd note this, try to confirm it and then exploit it.

HeeHawsCantona

Meathman007 please change your nickname.
The greatest virtue that God has bestowed on our proud people is never to lie down and accept defeat and when we are beaten (by whatever means) we shake their hands and dont openly cry about it - are you sure you're not from Cork or have parentage from there?

luckylucky

HeeHawsCantona wrote:

Meathman007 please change your nickname.
The greatest virtue that God has bestowed on our proud people is never to lie down and accept defeat and when we are beaten (by whatever means) we shake their hands and dont openly cry about it - are you sure you're not from Cork or have parentage from there?

The obligatory dig at Cork people, yawn :rolleyes: