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Headsup - calling range?

  • 28-07-2007 12:56pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 661 ✭✭✭


    Down to the last two of a SnG, chip stacks are fairly even. Your image is tight, but aggressive in position. Any hands gone to showdown have justified your betting.

    Your opponent is first to act and goes all-in. What range would you call with?

    How mcuh would your range expand if you had a read on him, knowing that he is likely to play atc?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    You haven't mentioned by far the most important factor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    whats stack sizes & blinds


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 661 ✭✭✭dK1NG


    Mr.Plough wrote:
    whats stack sizes & blinds

    Sorry:o

    Blinds are 1 and 2k, 15min levels, and approx. 35k (opponent) vs 50k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    with him open shoving for 17.5 bbs id need something decent to call.

    aa/kk/qq/jj/ak

    theres a bit of play so you can just wait for a hand to stack him if hes shoving alot


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭HeeHawsCantona


    Obviously depends on the opponent and your read etc but I'd call 99+ in pp's and AK poss AQ and maybe KJ/KQ suited - probably not AJ or A10


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Shadowless


    So he open pushes for 17.5 BB's?
    He hasn't done this before and we've no reads?

    I'd prob give him credit for some sort of hand.
    88+ AJ+ maybe?
    I'd like to think I could fold AJ here or 8's but not sure I would in reality.

    If he's literally playin atc here then I'd call with Ax, K9+, QT+, 66+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Shadowless


    Mr.Plough wrote:
    with him open shoving for 17.5 bbs id need something decent to call.

    aa/kk/qq/jj/ak

    You'd fold TT here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    i duno. if its the first time hes shoved, and open shoving for 17.5 bbs?

    its marginal without any info for me but im a big nit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭HeeHawsCantona


    To Be Honest You Cant Answer This Without Being In The Situation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,956 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Shadowless wrote:
    So he open pushes for 17.5 BB's?
    He hasn't done this before and we've no reads?

    I'd prob give him credit for some sort of hand.
    88+ AJ+ maybe?
    I'd like to think I could fold AJ here or 8's but not sure I would in reality.

    If he's literally playin atc here then I'd call with Ax, K9+, QT+, 66+


    In reality u couldn't fold 88's - lol - u mean in a live game ......:D :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 661 ✭✭✭dK1NG


    Mr.Plough wrote:
    with him open shoving for 17.5 bbs id need something decent to call.
    aa/kk/qq/jj/ak
    theres a bit of play so you can just wait for a hand to stack him if hes shoving alot

    he's shoving every second hand, when he is first to act.
    Obviously depends on the opponent and your read etc but I'd call 99+ in pp's and AK poss AQ and maybe KJ/KQ suited - probably not AJ or A10

    one time i called him with AQs - going by my reads, I thought I could well be ahead. Good/bad call??
    Shadowless wrote:
    So he open pushes for 17.5 BB's?
    He hasn't done this before and we've no reads?

    I'd prob give him credit for some sort of hand.
    88+ AJ+ maybe?
    I'd like to think I could fold AJ here or 8's but not sure I would in reality.

    If he's literally playin atc here then I'd call with Ax, K9+, QT+, 66+

    My reading of him is that he's loose, and aggressive. He knows how to use his chips when he has a nice stack. I had turned him over a few times with my aggressive bets, and he was getting wound up over it - so his range was getting increasingly wide.

    The past four orbits he has pushed pre-flop.



    Would sort of difference would it make if the blinds were going up within the next minute? - next up was 2 and 4k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    if hes shoving every 2nd hand im calling with any ace, suited king, kq,kj,k10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭connie147


    You said you called him once already when you had AQ, but you neglected to tell us what he showed then. Its impossible to give constructive advice if your gonna leave out important information.

    Also, youve not told us how much moneys at stake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 661 ✭✭✭dK1NG


    connie147 wrote:
    You said you called him once already when you had AQ, but you neglected to tell us what he showed then. Its impossible to give constructive advice if your gonna leave out important information.

    Also, youve not told us how much moneys at stake.

    This is only an example scenario that springs to mind - what I'm wondering in general is what type of hand range you would call with if the opponent is going AI every second hand.

    I know it depends on blinds, stacks, etc etc.

    It came to mind after a home game we played last night, no major money involved, just a friendly game amongst friends (if there is such a thing:D ).

    The time I called with AQ he showed pocket 6s, but that particular player is also likely to turn over 2,7o. Another hand that went to showdown was my AKs getting busted by AQo when the Q hit the turn.
    I caught him a few times with hands such as K,Js against his A,2 (flsuh draw on flop which hit on turn); pocket 9s beating his 4,5 (5BB raise then slowplayed on a low flop for a nice double up on river after teh AK hand above); pocket 10s against his 2,7o - it was a long heads up, a lot of the time that it went to showdown I had the best hand going in, but he hit his cards...

    the game that got me thinking bout this is maybe not the best example to give, seeing how wide the players range was in that game.

    but in general, if both players had around 20-25BB, and your opponent was raising A.I. a lot would you be happy with K,Js; pocket 6s+ etc.

    Would you call with Ax or would you require say A,10+??


    Sorry if this is all over the place, just me wondering out loud....:o


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