How can i check this site out

Dub_Gunner

Hi guys can someone help me with this?

I received this link to this site which offer electric goods at prices to good to be true and im wondering is there anyway i can check them out to see if there legit before making any purchase from them.

Here is the link and they are based in china has anyone else here come across this site?

http://www.elec-apparatus.com

also here is a copy of there licence they sent me to check out please see attached

Oryx

Dont touch them with a 2000 foot barge pole. Random products at 'think of a number' pricing. Really bad webdesign. Hotmail as a contact. Western Union payment unless your order exceeds 20000 in which case theyll take paypal? Baby Jesus wept.

This isnt even a good attempt at scamming.

Fionn

I love their about page

Welcome to visit our website :www.elec-apparatus.com
We are a large wholesaler sell mainly electronical and digital items,such as digital Video/camera,mobile,TV,Laptops,Mp4,GPS,psp,bike,motorbike,ornament.etc.The quality of our products is the best, and our service is perfect,and our price is the best, the speed of our shipping is very fast.
We have our own warehouse and stores, we have clients all over the world,
and we have received very high praise from our customers.
If you have some suggestions about our products or our service, please tell us ,and we would like to accept and improve,and appreciate you very much.
Hope we can cooperate happily in the long term.
Our belief: credit is the first, customers are our god.

Sincerely yours

that licence could be his granny's marriage certificate!!!

On a unrelated matter I was looking at some stuff on a site based I think in ireland - anyone have any experience of them??

http://coolaboola.net/shop/

Oryx

Fionn, Ive never heard of coolaboola, but looking at the T&C's any payments to them for repairs etc should be made to Fotovista... which is interesting....

jhegarty

I can check the site out , but it will cost €200 by western union to do it...

Zaph

Fionn wrote:

On a unrelated matter I was looking at some stuff on a site based I think in ireland - anyone have any experience of them??

http://coolaboola.net/shop/

Never heard of them but they're not doing anyone any favours with their prices. They've a 1GB black Creative Zen Stone for €65.50. I got one for my sister from DVD.co.uk for £25 (about €37) including shipping last week.

Fionn

oh crikey!!

Fotovista is pixmania in another guise eh?

ok nuff said!! :rolleyes:

mcaul

Me thinks its a wee cun% running this site

Just love the 12345678 phone number

Domain Name:elec-apparatus.com


Registrant:
wei cun
beijing
100021
????


Administrative Contact:
wei cun
wei cun
beijing
beijing Beijing 100021
CN
tel: 86 010 12345678
fax: 010 12345678
guestinfo@elec-apparatus.com

Technical Contact:
wei cun
wei cun

beijing Beijing 100021
CN
tel: 86 010 12345678
fax: 86 010 12345678
guestinfo@elec-apparatus.com

Billing Contact:
wei cun
wei cun
beijing
beijing Beijing 100021
CN
tel: 86 010 12345678
fax: 86 010 12345678
guestinfo@elec-apparatus.com

Registration Date: 2007-06-27
Update Date: 2007-06-27
Expiration Date: 2008-06-27

Primary DNS: ns2.xinnetdns.com 210.51.170.48
Secondary DNS: ns2.xinnet.cn 210.51.170.67

mhoward

I run this site from Dublin, we are not associated with Fotovista or Pixmania. We had some help settitng up from Pixmania. We are defo legit. You can contact us on skype from the site, and we will soon be offering live help.

darc

mhoward wrote:

I run this site from Dublin, we are not associated with Fotovista or Pixmania. We had some help settitng up from Pixmania. We are defo legit. You can contact us on skype from the site, and we will soon be offering live help.

Legit??? No company details on the site as required by legislation. No address for the company on the site as required by legislation. €13 delivery charge. Only phone number is a mobile. Only payment option is Paypal. (Do the banks not trust you to give you a CC terminal?) Nothing special about the prices. Hopefully you'll change these things as nobody in their right mind would order from the site as is.

mhoward

darc wrote:

Legit??? No company details on the site as required by legislation. No address for the company on the site as required by legislation. €13 delivery charge. Only phone number is a mobile. Only payment option is Paypal. (Do the banks not trust you to give you a CC terminal?) Nothing special about the prices. Hopefully you'll change these things as nobody in their right mind would order from the site as is.

Where did you see all this legislation? We are a small company based in Dublin. If we share our address online we get slammed with spam. Paypal is the easiest and safest way for us and our customers, of which we have had many. As for our prices we try to keep them as competitive as possible we are cheaper than most. We are sorry some things are not as cheap as our competitors (Some Mp3 players look at our IPODs compared to the o2 store we are cheaper), we do not force anyone to buy from us. If people wish to price match they can always email or there are plenty of other ways to contact the store through the contact us page.

Thank you

Zaph

mhoward wrote:

Where did you see all this legislation? We are a small company based in Dublin. If we share our address online we get slammed with spam.

From the Eugene F. Collins, Solicitors, website

The European Directive on Distance Selling (Directive 97/7EC) was incorporated into Irish Law by the EC (Protection of Consumers in respect of contracts made by means of distance communication) Regulations 2001.(S.I. 207 of 2001). These regulations have been effective since 15th May 2001.

The regulations provide that all online businesses, or businesses which use any of the means of distance sales mentioned above, must at a minimum provide the following information before an enforceable online contract can take place.

• Name and address of the supplier
• Main characteristics of the goods or services
• Price of the goods or services including all taxes
• Delivery costs where appropriate
• Arrangements for payment, delivery or performance
• Inform the consumer of their right of cancellation (unless the transaction is one of the limited type to which this right does not apply, see the section on “cooling off periods”)
• Telecoms cost if it is calculated other than at basic rate Period for which the offer or price remains valid
• For ongoing contracts, the minimum duration of the contract.

If you're not familiar with these regulations there's a whole lot on that link you should read.

Oryx

mhoward wrote:

If we share our address online we get slammed with spam.

I dont know a lot about this, but our web designer has our address and phone number on our site as an image file. And the host keeps spam to manageable levels. (Not sure how, but its ok)

mcaul

I had a look at your site - I'd agreed with darc - it needs a bit more info to conform with EU law.

Every website that sells things should have company registration number, trading address and contact phone number - you'd be surprised how many people will check this out. My company details pages have had over 1000 views since May and the CRO link has been clicked nearly 300 times. Personally I'd avoid any website that does not provide any details especially one that is selling electronics as there are just so many scam sites out there.

And whilst you may be the most genuine of people trying to give quite good value you have to realise that there are scammers in Ireland too! - And also many people are wary of .net & .com as there are no controls over who operates them whereas with .ie you must provide proof of trading under the particular name.

If I were you, I'd put your warehouse / office / home address on the site, VAT# & company registration # in the about us page. Also on the returns page you must allow for a no quibble 7 day distance selling return service.

Hope it helps

di11on

@Mhoward:

Payment Methods
I run www.woodentoys.ie and I found that when I added Worldpay as a payment method, I saw site conversions go up. Worldpay is still not the ideal solution for me, but my current turnover doesn't justify the mimumum Settlement amounts required from the likes of Realex and chronopay and others.

Name and Address
I have my name and address posted, as text. I receive spam to my email address, but not to the physical address. I think the reassurance it gives to customers far outweighs any risks to you.

Image Quality
I see you are using Zencart. My site is based on OSCommerce which Zencart is based on also. I think you should consider using a thumbnail processor for your site as the quality of the small product images is quite poor (blocky). Check out the oscommerce forums here and search for a contribution called imagemagic.

Hope that's helpful.

mhoward

Me and my girlfriend set up the shop and we tried to process our first orders, we seen the paypal charges and we were amazed. In the end we made like 2 euro on a camera. So we need to find an alternative payment method. By the way I never even thought of looking at all that legislation. LOL !

admiralofthefleet

i just registered with alec-apparatus and ordered a nokia phone, the order was a success but they never asked for payment, i did however put my address in as 1 st. arseholes street, bollox, twatland. awaiting email...:D

admiralofthefleet

just got an email from elec-apparatus....

hi,glad to hear from you
thanks for your attention
so I hope we can do our busIness as soon as possIble,and really hope that
it is just a good beginning of our long -last business.
If you have any questions please e-mail me and i will try my best to
help you in time

What’s more, we have a promoting activity now, you may get the opportunity
to visit China or the 2008 Olympics for free if order from our compa

If you have any advice just pls email us.
hope we can cooperate more and long future,good luck for you to get the free
chance to visit China .
Thanks for your time to read it,hope for your cooperation and reply

Business Website:www.elec-apparatus.com
Email/MSN:elec-apparatus@hotmail.com
best wishes
sincerely yours