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Question re currency conversion

  • 25-07-2007 10:30am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭


    ...... seeing as I havent been abroad/had to exchange money in years, I need advice.


    Right, so one euro equals 66p at the moment. Essentially, if I change 600 euro Id imagine I will get £400 stg. But there is a loss to be made somewhere, correct? How much exactly. The way I would see it, someone in the UK making £400 stg per week would make 600 euro here, and the buying power would be roughly equivalent. Where is my loss, how much and why?

    tbh this is so obvious I dared not ask anyone in the real world, but due to having mates who make plenty of plans but go nowhere in the end this is my first trip abroad in many years.


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    I take it you're not talking about commission?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    There is no loss to be made, apart from if you come back with STG and want to change it back, and suddenly it's like 80p <-> €1, you'd get less EUR back in that case.

    Also, the converse applies, if it gots to, say, 50p <-> €1 you'd get more EUR back, and make a nice profit.

    This is what currency dealers do all the time, and they don't drive Ladas.

    But no, you make no loss apart from the comission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭layke


    http://www.xe.com

    Updated hourly. TIs hand for conversion if it's any use to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭big b


    layke wrote:
    http://www.xe.com

    Updated hourly. TIs hand for conversion if it's any use to you.

    Don't expect to get such good rates at your local travel agency though.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    http://www.xe.com/ucc
    To be exact. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    All banks have a Buy/Sell spread. They will buy sterling off you for a lower price than they will sell it to you for. Therefore, if you buy €200 worth of sterling and then convert that straight back to euro, you will lose out based on the rates offered.

    This is where they make their profit in a stable market, and where the customer loses out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    Cheers lads :) 350 euro, got my sterling for only 3.50 EUR commision :) Dunno why, but id some mad figure like 10% floating around in my head, was surprised it costs so little.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    All banks have a Buy/Sell spread. They will buy sterling off you for a lower price than they will sell it to you for. Therefore, if you buy €200 worth of sterling and then convert that straight back to euro, you will lose out based on the rates offered.

    This is where they make their profit in a stable market, and where the customer loses out.
    What gets me about that is that they charge commission on top too, so it's double profit time for the banks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    I'm told by a good friend, (although i've never tried it as I haven't had to get currency myself in ages) that if you just insist to the cashier that you don't pay commission then they wont charrge it. They'll protest and say that everyone pays it, but just insist that youd don't and they won't make you pay it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    I'm told by a good friend, (although i've never tried it as I haven't had to get currency myself in ages) that if you just insist to the cashier that you don't pay commission then they wont charrge it. They'll protest and say that everyone pays it, but just insist that youd don't and they won't make you pay it.

    Urban myth. You could insist that you are staff, and make up some excuse about your identification. That would get you off commission.

    The commission is supposed to cover the cost of converting small amounts of cash as the buy/sell spread in those cases wouldn't pay the cashier for the time it takes to faart.

    Easiest way to convert to sterling btw if you don't like queuing is to use the cash machine in the departures hall in Dublin Airport. It dispenses Euro, Sterling and Dollars.

    You can also use any ATM in the UK with your Irish issued ATM card.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    Jaysus lads, are yis all from Cavan? :D tbh I couldnt be arsed trying any tricks to get out of paying a poxy 3.50 commission, banks are gangsters and I generally hate them, but fair play to them for keeping it this low, they could have our balls in a grip with 10% if they wanted.

    So while on the subject of foreign travel, any Irish pubs in Glasgow recommended for the pre club, and any good nightclubs to recommend for birds and music (into hip hop, dance, particularly early to mid 90s, just no cheese man!)

    Or add here

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055124586

    Nein replies yet :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Why go to Scotland to visit an Irish bar when you can vist one at home every
    night? Always amazes me why people do this when abroad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    LOL :D A Slovak girl said the same to me in work re my intended trip to Prague for the September Czech match, when I told her i wasnt going to the match but would watch it in an Irish bar, asking why we are so insular abroad (a few of my mates are going to the actual match, Im late into the plan and so will probably just tag along, and watch the match in an Irish bar with some random expats). I explained its a security thing, I dont fancy watching a Czech v us match alone in my green jersey , drunk as **** singing fields of athenry in some pub in the suburbs or inner city neighbourhoods of Prague, surrounded by several hundred drunken red shirted lads do I.

    And as I said to her, as for the Irish being insular, theres at least one Czech, one Polish and one Russian bar in town, and in Zanzibar at the weekend yid be hard pressed to find an Irishman :D (dunno why mind, the entry fee is OK and the tunes and women are decent)

    I dunno, just want to reminisce what its like to be in an "Irish pub" where drink is cheaper than 4.20 minimum a pint :D


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