Irish people becoming lazy

Reku

Somewhat inspired by the escalators thread and the views of some posters that the reason people don't try walk on them is down to lazyness:

What is with all these twits using the bus and luas for one stop only, elderly I could understand, but every day you get people using them when the distance they are travelling would make it quicker to walk between the stops than to wait for the bus/luas. How lazy can you be? And yet people wonder why we're getting fatter, it's these people pushing up the average.

I hope the government has the cop on to bias any ticket cost increases against those traveling shorter distances in future (leave the longer travel ones alone, just putting up the shorter ones), try deter these people, make them get off their asses and walk. If nothing else the reduction in state medical fees due to the various side effects of severe obesity will be worth it.

Everyday I see numerous people doing this and I can't help but notice that half the time they're not exactly the skinniest (have been a few who would need a seat per cheek), and yet these are the people who will then probably go on to complain about being tired after climbing a stairs or that they sweat too much or members of the opposite sex don't tend to find them attractive.

whiskeyman

I was gonna prepare a big response to your arguement....



but I couldn't be bothered...


meh...

petes

whiskeyman wrote:

meh...

Seconded.

thelordofcheese

yeah, meh....
I hope someone else will rebutt the OP for me, i can't be arsed.

Reku

Well, at least there's hope for you lot, you weren't too lazy to read all my OP.:p
Also I am quite happy with the bum I have I don't need to be rebutted thank you!:D

ali.c

farohar wrote:

I hope the government has the cop on to bias any ticket cost increases against those traveling shorter distances in future (leave the longer travel ones alone, just putting up the shorter ones), try deter these people, make them get off their asses and walk. If nothing else the reduction in state medical fees due to the various side effects of severe obesity will be worth it.

Thats just crazy, i usually walk rather than get the bus (its like a 35minute walk) but this morning did you see the rain, no umbrella no rain coat so yup i got the bus rather than sit all day in work in wet clothes. I dont do it very often but when i do i'd rather not be penalised for it.

PeakOutput

becoming?????

Reku

ali.c wrote:

Thats just crazy, i usually walk rather than get the bus (its like a 35minute walk) but this morning did you see the rain, no umbrella no rain coat so yup i got the bus rather than sit all day in work in wet clothes. I dont do it very often but when i do i'd rather not be penalised for it.

If the weather were the reason I could understand, but it is just as common on sunny days as rainy ones. And 35mins walk is not one stop, it's the best part of an entire route.
Also if they are happy to stand in line waiting for the bus while getting wet why not walk and at least be making progress towards their destination while getting wet? Besides if the rain really bothered you that much would you care that you're fare had a higher % increase than that of someone traveling further or are you just going to be glad that the roof isn't leaking?

baztard

Irish people becoming lazy... fat, matierialistic, anti social, snobby and shallow. The down sides of having too much money.

AlmightyCushion

Well if I have time and the weather is good I generally walk to and from town and that's about a 30 minute walk. I actually quite like doing it.

petes

AlmightyCushion wrote:

Well if I have time and the weather is good I generally walk to and from town and that's about a 30 minute walk. I actually quite like doing it.

Thats because you be looking at all the young ones.

Spud83

America = Ireland + 20 years. Its simple maths people!!!!

AlmightyCushion

petes wrote:

Thats because you be looking at all the young ones.

Plus there are plenty of pubs on the route as well to help quench my thirst.

Floodzie

baztard wrote:

Irish people becoming lazy... fat, matierialistic, anti social, snobby and shallow. The down sides of having too much money.

At a guess I'd say you don't have much money...

Bitter, aren't we?

Comments like yours normally come from journalists who resent the fact that the rest of the country are doing well but they're just stuck in a crap-paying journalism job.

Here's a handy hint: Retrain and do something that pays a decent wage! Doing well in life is more than just working hard - you also have to make the right decisions and follow the right career path. Anyone can work hard - the truly talented keep an eye on their career.

So start making some money while the Celtic Tiger lasts and stop griping at the rest of us because we make more money!

I'm in a very well-paid job but I never lost my 'soul' - still very much a hippy. I'm not fat, materialistic, anti-social, snobby or shallow.

biko

So what if they ride just one stop? More money to the bus company to (hopefully) improve the service.

monkeyfudge

I don't normally get the Luas... but I had to get out to Tallaght to deliver a birthday present to 6th this week.

I got on at Bus Aras and noticed that 5 people got off at Abbey Street... That's like a 2 minute walk... It does seem pretty stupid to me...

Terry

Floodzie wrote:

At a guess I'd say you don't have much money...

Bitter, aren't we?

Comments like yours normally come from journalists who resent the fact that the rest of the country are doing well but they're just stuck in a crap-paying journalism job.

Here's a handy hint: Retrain and do something that pays a decent wage! Doing well in life is more than just working hard - you also have to make the right decisions and follow the right career path. Anyone can work hard - the truly talented keep an eye on their career.

So start making some money while the Celtic Tiger lasts and stop griping at the rest of us because we make more money!

I'm in a very well-paid job but I never lost my 'soul' - still very much a hippy. I'm not fat, materialistic, anti-social, snobby or shallow.

Here's a handy hint.
Attack the post, not the poster.

Plissken1

The Super Valu where I live has a massive carpark, but people drive in and queue for the ten places beside the front door of the supermarket, you have to see it to believe it, they are the laziest shower on the planet, and not only that, they didnt even need to drive there in the first place, as they all live around the bloody corner. Everyone in the area wears tracksuits, but no one ever excercises, oh the irony !!.

Floodzie

Terry wrote:

Here's a handy hint.
Attack the post, not the poster.

When the poster attacks the people who are actually the backbone of the Celtic Tiger?? Calling the rest of us fat, materialistic etc.? Maybe the pair of you would like to return to the wonderful days of the 80's when instead of talking about careers, houses and holidays we worried about making ends meet and young people's conversations were usually only about whether they were going to emigrate to London or New York?

Get a grip.

Plissken1

baztard wrote:

Irish people becoming lazy... fat, matierialistic, anti social, snobby and shallow. The down sides of having too much money.

We are not all like that, but certainly alot of people I know have become obsessed with Status, Property and Material crap. I find some people try too hard to act sophisticated and European, and then just end up coming across smug and obnoxious. The best way to find out, is to ask non nationals what they really think of us, it can be a real eye opener !.

Anyhoo what drives me nuts about Ireland is that its becoming more and more like Britain everyday. Its hard to tell the difference anymore, we are now just a suburb of the UK. We are even losing our accents, opting for this annoying, neutral Dubling 4 twang.

We don't need to return to the bad old days, but we dont need to arseholes either.

AlmightyCushion

Floodzie wrote:

When the poster attacks the people who are actually the backbone of the Celtic Tiger?? Calling the rest of us fat, materialistic etc.? Maybe the pair of you would like to return to the wonderful days of the 80's when instead of talking about careers, houses and holidays we worried about making ends meet and young people's conversations were usually only about whether they were going to emigrate to London or New York?

Get a grip.

Because only people with good jobs are fat and lazy. Everyone on the dole is a picture of health and fitness.

Floodzie

Plissken1 wrote:

Anyhoo what drives me nuts about Ireland is that its becoming more and more like Britain everyday. Its hard to tell the difference anymore, we are now just a suburb of the UK.

I agree. But I'm also involved in the Irish Language movement and I'm sick of people who complain about Ireland becoming more like Britain (or anywhere else in the English-speaking world) but won't learn their own language... What do you expect?

Terry

Floodzie wrote:

When the poster attacks the people who are actually the backbone of the Celtic Tiger?? Calling the rest of us fat, materialistic etc.? Maybe the pair of you would like to return to the wonderful days of the 80's when instead of talking about careers, houses and holidays we worried about making ends meet and young people's conversations were usually only about whether they were going to emigrate to London or New York?

Get a grip.

Please read the charter.
It's at the top of the main page.

Floodzie

Plissken1 wrote:

The best way to find out, is to ask non nationals what they really think of us, it can be a real eye opener !.

From talking to foreign nationals I have found the following:

People from hot countries - hate Ireland especially the weather, transport, and money obsession.

People from former Communist countries (usually colder!) - love Ireland, especially the weather, transport and money obsession.

I suppose it's all relative...

smellytinker

I got back to work from my lunch earlier and took the lift up one floor, does this make me lazy? The lift was full of colleagues and I just knew everyone was thinking that I was… The truth is I've been done 6 hours of fitness training this week and can hardly walk let alone climb up stairs.

My point being you don't really know a persons circumstances when you're judging them as being fat and lazy.

jackdaw

I was on the metro once in Barcelona, and most of the time one has to stand, fair enough ...at one stop a fat woman got on and someone else left their seat to get off .. if you only saw the enthusiasm she bounded to the seat with ..
It was so ironic .. putting that much effort to be lazy!! I just thought .. "If you put that much effort into your daily life .. maybe you wouldn't weigh as much as the fu*king titanic" ..

gurramok

baztard wrote:

Irish people becoming lazy... fat, matierialistic, anti social, snobby and shallow. The down sides of having too much money.

Thats a generalisation about Irish people.

Any proof or is it an opinion?

Dev 17

Often the one stop thing isn't laziness. A lot of people get off the luas as soon as the inspector hops on.

I think people are becoming a bit to critical of themselves and other Irish people.

I cycle to the shops because I'm not arsed walking. It's easier and quicker. Why make life harder for yourself.

Cheese Princess

I have seen people get into the lift in my building and go down one level. How lazy is that??? They are waiting longer for the lift to arrive than it takes to walk down one set of stairs.

Colonel Sanders

Floodzie wrote:

At a guess I'd say you don't have much money...

Bitter, aren't we?

Comments like yours normally come from journalists who resent the fact that the rest of the country are doing well but they're just stuck in a crap-paying journalism job.

Here's a handy hint: Retrain and do something that pays a decent wage! Doing well in life is more than just working hard - you also have to make the right decisions and follow the right career path. Anyone can work hard - the truly talented keep an eye on their career.

So start making some money while the Celtic Tiger lasts and stop griping at the rest of us because we make more money!

I'm in a very well-paid job but I never lost my 'soul' - still very much a hippy. I'm not fat, materialistic, anti-social, snobby or shallow.

I have a very well paid job but agree with the sentiments of the person you disagreed with. its nthing to do with how much money one has. The irish in beneral are becoming snobbish and shallow. It s all self importance. You always get more attitude from people in suits who have ipods than anyone else. In tesco yesterday a guy was quing in the 5 items or less q with about 10 things. The woman serving put the 1st 5 items through and gave him the bill. He pointed out that he still had more items. the girl aid something along the lines of 'i'll let you away with it but shouldn't have served you'. He just grunted (in a fake west brit type accent) 'did you see the size o the other q, no way'. So everyone else has to q but I, mister suit + ipod doesn't as I'm me.

baztard

gurramok wrote:

Thats a generalisation about Irish people.

Any proof or is it an opinion?

Yeah its a generalisation of course, I dont mean everybody is like that, but its becoming more common.

Its an opinion also, but look around you for proof. Gotto say, the Dundrum shopping centre on any given day.

Fat - Take a look at the people, there are more 'clearly obese' people and an awful lot more people who are heavier than whats healthy.

Matieralistic - There are so many people there rushing around buying over priced stuff that they don't need, completly in excess. (Big label clothes + shoes, electronics etc etc) driving massive status symbol cars.

Anti Social - Far fewer people know their noighbours anymore. People dont have the same time for people that they used to - outside of close family / friends etc. And watch the aggression in the people in the shopping centre towards other people.

Snobby - The stereotype D4 attitude to other people who aren't of the same social order is becoming far more common.

Shallow - Matierialism is more and more important to people than relationships / friendships and getting along with other people in general. People are judged more by their social standing, where they live and the car they drive as oppossed to who they actually are and their personality.

Colonel Sanders

baztard, not much i'd disagrre with there.

dodgyme

I fecking hate SUV drivers. they to me are the biggest display of crassness anyone can find.