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Mercedes SL Diesel?

  • 19-07-2007 4:20pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭


    Their is a red '81 Mercedes R107 sitting on the side of the road across from the Maxol (I think) petrol station in Irishtown, nears Ringsend. It's being sitting their for quite some time now, and their is a layer of atmospheric dust building up on it. I've glanced at the badge on the back numerous times, and I'm nearly sure it says 250 SLD or something of that effect. Now it could have said 280, but as I said, I've only glanced at it.

    I've never managed to get a picture of it, but I intend on doing so in the near future. I'm thinking it maybe the owner taking the piss or something, but was their ever a diesel engine of this model? I can't find anything on the internet about such a model.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭andreas_220D


    Max_Damage wrote:
    but was their ever a diesel engine of this model? I can't find anything on the internet about such a model.

    Mercedes fitted some 107s with 300D/300TD engines for testing purposes but eventually cancelled the project (cooling problems, noise etc.).

    And even if they had decided to prduce the cars with a Diesel engine, then probably only for the american market (as with the W116).

    Rumors say, that they converted about 150 testcars, one of them is for sale in Dortmund/Germany.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭8~)


    Interesting...

    I've looked under the bonnet of my SLC and compared to the underbonnet of my w123 300D and thought the 300D engine looked a bit too tall to fit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    Yes I have seen this car , it does say 280 SLD, and it looks very sorry for itself !

    I recall when it was used regularly, along with another old Merc too, but it does not seem to have shifted for quite some time now !

    Judging by the way it sits on the road, very high at the fornt, I would say it does have a diesel engine fitted along with different springs.

    Tony Canning used to do a huge amount of these diesel conversions in the
    80's and early 90's using Merc parts, probably using a different subframe and suspension legs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭8~)


    I haven't done more than just casually look at the engine fitment in the W123 vs W107. However, aside from the height of the 300D motor, the suspension and subframe between the two models are different. I'd imagine the engine mounting points are the same though - W123 was fitted with the 300D and M110 engine (as in my W107) as standard so Mercedes wouldn't adapt the W123 body to suit a particular engine. Dunno what the weight difference would be, 300D vs. some SL V8.

    ...and whatever happened to all those V8s that got removed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    ...and whatever happened to all those V8s that got removed?

    ..............they all became coffee tables, dont tell me you havent got one !!!:D

    I knw the floorpan and suspension is very similar on W114/115 and W107's so maybe a mixture of bits are required !

    Who knows, either way its not something I'd fancy !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭tc20


    MercMad wrote:
    ..............they all became coffee tables, dont tell me you havent got one !!!:D


    Ben, are you saying that with tongue firmly in cheek, or ? I'd love some motor related furniture, be it a V8 table (:cool: ) or a sofa kinda like the ones on Top Gear, you know, take the back seats from some plush old motor and stick them onto some tubing. Ive come across a site (audi, or possibly Porsche) were you can buy stuff like brake discs and cylinders that are fashioned into 'household' items


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭8~)


    Anyone who's got a female partner wouldn't get away with having a V8 coffee table.

    If I had a spare Mercedes V8 I'd be far more tempted to lob it in to a W123 shell than use it for a table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭tc20


    ^ i'd get around herself alright, but yeah, if the V8 was in working order i'd throw it in my W114 :eek: :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    Heres one made from an all alloy rover v8,note the bottles in the cylinders:cool:

    Copy20of20v8coffeetable.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭tc20


    Now that is seriously cool hi5......

    Is it yours, or how did you come across the pic?

    Me want!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    No not me ,it was made by a guy called Christoff Brock in England.
    http://www.roverklubben.se/v8tablee.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Blue850


    8~) wrote:
    Interesting...

    I've looked under the bonnet of my SLC and compared to the underbonnet of my w123 300D and thought the 300D engine looked a bit too tall to fit.

    There was red SLC at the Celbridge show a few years fitted with a diesel, I think it was the 300D, rough looking though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭2cv


    And even if they had decided to prduce the cars with a Diesel engine, then probably only for the american market (as with the W116).

    I never got that to be honest. The W116 is about the size of the Titanic (i know cos i have one!!!). Why only sell a diesel version on the american market? Even a 350 or a 450 would be a small enough engine for them lot and petrol costs nothing over there!!! I don't get it, i really don't!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭andreas_220D


    2cv wrote:
    I never got that to be honest. The W116 is about the size of the Titanic (i know cos i have one!!!). Why only sell a diesel version on the american market? Even a 350 or a 450 would be a small enough engine for them lot and petrol costs nothing over there!!! I don't get it, i really don't!!!

    The W116 300SD was introduced in May 1978. The 5 cyl Dieselengine used before in the W115/240D 3.0 and W123/300D and now in the W116 300SD had been provided for its new task with a turbocharger which increased the output on 115 HP. Mercedes had begun the development of this unusual S-class-variant, which was offered exclusively in the USA and Canada, with the objective to fulfill the consumption limit values introduced by the US Government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    tc20 wrote:
    Ben, are you saying that with tongue firmly in cheek, or ? I'd love some motor related furniture, be it a V8 table (:cool: ) or a sofa kinda like the ones on Top Gear, you know, take the back seats from some plush old motor and stick them onto some tubing. Ive come across a site (audi, or possibly Porsche) were you can buy stuff like brake discs and cylinders that are fashioned into 'household' items

    ..........I havent really started with it yet but I like that picture !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,747 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    The W116 300SD was introduced in May 1978. The 5 cyl Dieselengine used before in the W115/240D 3.0 and W123/300D and now in the W116 300SD had been provided for its new task with a turbocharger which increased the output on 115 HP. Mercedes had begun the development of this unusual S-class-variant, which was offered exclusively in the USA and Canada, with the objective to fulfill the consumption limit values introduced by the US Government.


    My mother lives in Atlanta, and had one of them about.........10 years ago..??

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