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Cause there's a monster living under my bed, whispering in my ear

  • 18-07-2007 5:15am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭


    50/10/1.36 over 20 hands, no reads.

    80 effective


    Dealt to phantom_lord 8heart.gif9heart.gif

    he mr utg+1, i usually 3bet this stupid pf bets, but this time i just call with one other.

    2heart.gif9club.gifQdiamond.gif

    bets 3, I call

    8club.gif

    bets 4
    I make it 14

    he insta-shoves. I?







    40/15/.86 over 80

    just sat down, i'm just gonna assume he's terrible.

    100 bb effective

    Dealt to phantom_lord Aheart.gif Aclub.gif


    make it 4 utg+1, two callers, villain from the sb

    Flop (9)

    4spade.gif9spade.gif4diamond.gif

    check, bet 10

    Turn (19)

    10club.gif

    check, bet $26.00

    River (70)

    6spade.gif

    check, standard shove?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Hand 1 I call
    Hand 2 check river and c/c or c/f depending on size of the bet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    i call hand 1 and check behind on river. hes terrible and c/call = give me spade and $$$


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    call & shove, easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    Hand 1:

    If them stats were over a larger sample id probably fold as youll rarely see a 1.3 agression player 4bet all in with worse than 2 pair, them agression stats over 20 hands are useless so with no reads i guess its a call, could have the draw, TPTK or the 2 lower combo 2 pair hands your ahead of, if he has JT,Q8 a set so beit at least you have a few outs.

    Hand 2:

    Im assuming its $100 NL and you both have $65 left behind on the river. Pot is $70, what can he have that hell call all in for with a Flush on board. A half pot bet should get called by any 9x or Tx or possibly 77-88 and im assumming hell fold any underpair to an all in. Id say hell only call an all in with TJ+ of the hands you beat.

    JJ-KK is a possibility but im sure he may have raised them somewhere from preflop to Turn. So id imagine youll get a 1/2 pot bet called at least twice as often as an all in especially on that flush board. Then again getting value is something im trying to improve so if im wrong let me know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 900 ✭✭✭CaptainNemo


    1: I'd call this expecting to see a horribly misplayed AA or KK, or possibly AQ.

    2: Smallish bet sounds good to me, you will get called by plenty of hands you're beating. If you get raised fold obviously. I don't see the value in a shove.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Yep very easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭RedJoker


    Hand 1: Same stats over more hands and this would be closer, here it's a call.

    Hand 2: Yeah, shove is fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    pretty simple hands i guess, anyway, I folded #1, seems to have been a mistake.

    shoved #2, he looked me up light with a 9.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭insafehands


    Although it worked here, how can a shove be profitable over time in hand 2?


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