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GOD & Death

  • 17-07-2007 4:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi.
    Im 30 and fit and healthy. But for some reason I cant stop thinking about the future and what will my life be like. Will I be able to live a full life if Im so scared of death. I wonder where we go when we die. I am very scared of it.
    I know we dont physically go anywhere because we are six feet under. Do we float in space looking down on the world? Is heaven an actual place? Is ther an end to the universe?

    I am catholic but I dont go to church. I was only thought how to pray in primary school but was never told what the prayers mean. Are GOD & Jesus the same person or is GOD Jesus' father? I always thought Joseph was Jesus' father. Who is GOD?
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭kjt


    IMO you make your own future, live every second as it's
    your last. Enjoy life while your still young, fit and healthy.
    Don't worry about dying, who knows it could even be better
    than this life :)

    Stop worrying and live for the moment :D


    (btw I don't believe in god, and even if you knew
    who 'he' was, how would that help you?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    This is probably a question more suited for a Philosophy or a Religion forum. But I'll give my 2 cents anyway....
    God isn't a Who, God is more a What for me. God is whatever you make God to be. For me God is the ultimate energy, the goodness in which things are, we are already a part of that energy when we are alive, consciously or unconsciously we choose to live as was intended (how do we know right from wrong?) When we die, we return to that energy completely.
    But thats just what I think. I really don't know what death/afterlife is. Neither does any Church or any other person here. The mystery and inevitabilty is what makes is so scary, and yet so beautiful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    edit: mistake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Hi. Im 30 and fit and healthy. But for some reason I cant stop thinking about the future and what will my life be like. Will I be able to live a full life if Im so scared of death. I wonder where we go when we die. I am very scared of it

    There's no harm in being a bit scared of death, any creature not fearing death wouldn't live very long, so it's with good reason that we fear it. But that doesn't mean you have to let that fear consume you or worry you. We're all going to die that's a certainty, all we can do is make the most of the time we have here. You'd be wasting that time worrying too much about something none of us have any control over.
    I know we dont physically go anywhere because we are six feet under. Do we float in space looking down on the world? Is heaven an actual place? Is ther an end to the universe?

    Why do you believe that you will go anywhere? doesn't that seem rather unlikely if you are merely animated stardust, as we appear to be. Where were you before you were born? See what I mean? As for heaven being an actual place, no, it would seem to be something we humans invented to console ourselves that everything will be great in the next life (whatever that could possibly mean). Is there an end to the universe? Nobody knows for sure, though some of the world's greatest minds are working on it right now.
    I am catholic but I dont go to church. I was only thought how to pray in primary school but was never told what the prayers mean. Are GOD & Jesus the same person or is GOD Jesus' father? I always thought Joseph was Jesus' father. Who is GOD? Thanks

    You'd really have to pose those questions on the christianity forum, or the atheism/agnosticism forum (where surprisingly enough you might actually get a more knowledgable answer!). Personally I'm atheist so don't believe in a god, and most ceratinly not the traditional catholic/christian notion of a god listening in to your prayers and effecting the world accordingly. That's very obviously not true. To me it's outright nonsense, but if these questions are troubling you there's people over in the religious forums who'll be only too happy to help. Unless someone here can tell us all just who is this god fella? I'm all ears :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Hi.
    Im 30 and fit and healthy. But for some reason I cant stop thinking about the future and what will my life be like. Will I be able to live a full life if Im so scared of death. I wonder where we go when we die. I am very scared of it.
    I know we dont physically go anywhere because we are six feet under. Do we float in space looking down on the world? Is heaven an actual place? Is ther an end to the universe?

    I am catholic but I dont go to church. I was only thought how to pray in primary school but was never told what the prayers mean. Are GOD & Jesus the same person or is GOD Jesus' father? I always thought Joseph was Jesus' father. Who is GOD?
    Thanks

    This topic has been discussed several times in the Christianity fourm. I would seriously reccommend an Alpha course, they are recognised and supported by the Catholic church and other denominations, other than that try a different church other than the RC.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    I am 33 and recently died a few times after major cancer surgery. While I did not experience anything when these events happened I do believe that too many things happened for there not to be someone out there. In the hospital my survival was referred to as a miracle. I do believe in heaven. Certainly I would want to be with my loved ones if I died (I still have a high chance of that happening soon so I have had a lot of time to think about it).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Attractive Nun


    It is, of course, perfectly normal to fear death. Given its inevitability and its universality, it might well be the most thought-about phenomenon in human history - simply because information about it is no necessarily illusive. It is certainly my biggest fear. However, I think it's important to remember that fear of death is no reason to conclude that death doesn't happen, that there is an 'afterlife'. Close to the entirety of human civilisation has believed in a God or gods. The sheer number of different religions that have existed - most inspiring massive levels of devotion and certainty - should be enough to warn people about the perils of being devoted and certain about the religion they have stumbled upon.

    By all means, explore different religions and hope for an answer about death, but be open to the conclusion that religion is a delusion. I'm an atheist, and to be honest my belief that my death will just lead to nothingness terrifies me - it's because my feeble human mind can't comprehend the concept of nothingness, it's like a calculator trying to divide by zero. From my perspective, the best I can do is try not to think about it. Once you get past this, atheism is actually quite an inspiring paradigm. This is the one life we have, we are lucky enough to possess extraordinarily complex brains, capable of feeling joy, love and fulfillment and we live on the most beautiful planet - experience that while you can, and when death is at the door you can at least look back and know that you've used your life well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    I am catholic but I dont go to church. I was only thought how to pray in primary school but was never told what the prayers mean. Are GOD & Jesus the same person or is GOD Jesus' father? I always thought Joseph was Jesus' father. Who is GOD?
    Thanks

    If you want to deal with questions of death then you will have to examine your own faith, what you believe in. You say you are catholic but you don't practise-I don't mean to be rude, but I wouldn't really count myself as catholic in that instance. You have to go back to basics and start to question what it is you've been taught-you were taught prayers but you don't even know what purpose they fulfill. Regards the trinity, it was originally designed as a way of showing that God is beyond our preception. ie. God is three people in one. But he can't be because you can only be one person. regult; god transcends our own plain, and exists as an entity that cannot be explained in mere human ways. Thats a very quick way of explaining it but its the jist of what the trinity was. In more modern times people have forgotten that it is a metaphor, and treat the trinity as an actual existing phenomenon.


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