Next Dublin game?

curiousgeorge19

Looking at this over complicated GAA calendar trying to figure out when Dublin will play their semi-final tie? 19 or 26..
Quarter-final is August 11?

One Cold Hand

Don't be counting chickens! We have a quarter final to win first. As you said thats in 4 weeks time. We'll be drawn against one of the 4 winners from the next qualifiers round.

paulocon

Looking at this over complicated GAA calendar trying to figure out when Dublin will play their semi-final tie? 19 or 26..

Don't know but I think you begin the defence of your All-Ireland crown early next June..

stepbar

curiousgeorge19 wrote:

Looking at this over complicated GAA calendar trying to figure out when Dublin will play their semi-final tie? 19 or 26..
Quarter-final is August 11?

Here's hoping that they won't have to worry which date it is :rolleyes:

smashey

curiousgeorge19 wrote:

Looking at this over complicated GAA calendar trying to figure out when Dublin will play their semi-final tie? 19 or 26..
Quarter-final is August 11?

You're aiming wayyyy too low. The final is on September 16th. :rolleyes:

The Rooster

curiousgeorge19 wrote:

Looking at this over complicated GAA calendar trying to figure out when Dublin will play their semi-final tie? 19 or 26..
Quarter-final is August 11?

Dublin's quarter-final is currently scheduled for Saturday August 11, the same day as the Kerry quarter-final.

The winners of those two games are scheduled to meet in the semis on Sunday August 26.

blackbelt

stepbar wrote:

Here's hoping that they won't have to worry which date it is :rolleyes:

And heres me toasting to your comment and that you will be wrong.:)

Benedict XVI

The Rooster wrote:

Dublin's quarter-final is currently scheduled for Saturday August 11, the same day as the Kerry quarter-final.

The winners of those two games are scheduled to meet in the semis on Sunday August 26.

the Dublin game will probably be a stand alone game on the 11th with the Kerry v qualifier game going on the Sunday, the 12th as a double header with a hurling semi-final, as happened last year with Mayo v Laois.

Flukey

I wonder what date the 2011 final will be. I want to be there to see our 5 in-a-row.

mise_me_fein

But Louth are only winning in 2009, 2010 and 2011....don't you mean 3 in a row?

Ah no really Dublin have a decent chance this year. Sorta like England in the soccer - big support, over expectation, player buckling under pressure and over exposure in the media....just looking forward to the semi when the fcuk up yet again

blackbelt

Well unfortunately for you guys,you will have to wait a few weeks for that if it happens but until then,we are smiling all the way.:D

mise_me_fein

You're still there and so are 11 other teams big deal

DubShelley

Quarter final definitely on the 11th...have the name down for club tickets already.

Anyone have any idea what time it will be at?

blackbelt

mise_me_fein wrote:

You're still there and so are 11 other teams big deal

Which will be trimmed down to 6 teams when Dublin will play in the quarters.

blackbelt

DubShelley wrote:

Quarter final definitely on the 11th...have the name down for club tickets already.

Anyone have any idea what time it will be at?

I'd imagine 4:15pm as all Dublin games start later to facilitate the Gardai and the pubs have to have their break before the tea-time rush.:)

Louth4sam

blackbelt wrote:

Which will be trimmed down to 6 teams when Dublin will play in the quarters.

Would it not be 7?

paulocon

haven't we already established by the opening post that Dublin have a bye in the Quarters so that's probably where the 6 teams comes from...

Mr. Incognito

I thought the format was as follows

Semi 1
(Kerry Vs Qualifer winner) Vs (Sligo Vs Qualifier Winner)


Sem2
(Dublin Vs Qualifier Winner) Vs ( Tyrone Vs Qualifier Winner)


This is based on the circular tradition. i.e Munster Vs Connacht
Leinster Vs Ulster which is in force this year.

Regardless I can't see Dublin beating Tyrone or Kerry. I'm delighted to see the hype up though, The harder you hype, the harder you fall.

DubShelley

blackbelt wrote:

I'd imagine 4:15pm as all Dublin games start later to facilitate the Gardai and the pubs have to have their break before the tea-time rush.:)

Well it's a Saturday match so may not follow the same time as the Sunday matches...can't seem to find the answer anywhere yet. :rolleyes:

mise_me_fein

Gotta agree with you on that. Dublin are just not up to it. Maybe if there forwards passed the ball.

The Rooster

SetantaL wrote:

This is based on the circular tradition. i.e Munster Vs Connacht
Leinster Vs Ulster which is in force this year.

No. Its Munster v Leinster and Connacht v Ulster. Next year its Leinster v Ulster.

Benedict XVI

SetantaL wrote:

I thought the format was as follows

Semi 1
(Kerry Vs Qualifer winner) Vs (Sligo Vs Qualifier Winner)


Sem2
(Dublin Vs Qualifier Winner) Vs ( Tyrone Vs Qualifier Winner)


This is based on the circular tradition. i.e Munster Vs Connacht
Leinster Vs Ulster which is in force this year.

Yea the rotation system is still in place, but your pairings are incorrect

This year it is Muster v Leinster and Ulster v Connaught.

Last year it was
Dublin (Leinster) v Mayo (Connaught)
Cork (Munster) v Kerry (Ulster – beat Armagh in ¼)

2005
Kerry (Munster) v Cork (Connaught –beat Galway in ¼)
Armagh (Ulster) v Tyrone (Leinster – beat Dublin in ¼)

PRman

Is this definate? It said yesterday on the paper that the GAA said it's an open draw, so there seems to be a bit of confusion??

niallo32

It's an Open draw in the quarters - four provincial winners against four winners of the last qualifier round.

Semi is Dublin or Qtr final winner v Kerry or Qtr final winner

Benedict XVI

PRman wrote:

Is this definate? It said yesterday on the paper that the GAA said it's an open draw, so there seems to be a bit of confusion??

Do you mean for Semi or Quarter ?

According to the GAA website, not the most reliable of source, the rotation system is still in place for the semi
http://www.gaa.ie/page/bank_of_ireland_sfc_2007_fixtures.html

I wish they would get rid of it though, open draws are better.

Thankfully they got rid of the system thy had in '05 and '06 when the quarters were pre-determined based on what the semi's were going to be

i.e 2006
Munstrer Champion v Ulster final loser or qualifier (Cork v Donegal)

blackbelt

Louth4sam wrote:

Would it not be 7?

No,as there will be 2 quarter final matches being played one week prior.So two from eight equals six and Kerry will be playing on the Sunday so when Dublin are playing their quarter-final,effectively there will be six remaining teams still alive.:)

PRman

Benedict XVI wrote:

Do you mean for Semi or Quarter ?

I meant Semi-Final. Yeah that clears it up thanks. If it's on their website they can hardly change it. Yeah I would prefer an open draw to avoid a potential semi with Kerry - Can't see us beating them TBH

Nalced_irl

I love this new thing where when you post about Dublin, you gotta mention the 3 words England, Hype and Underachievement. Without that your not a real countryman. I would say Cork could be a real challenge this year. They are certainly a team on the up and id say their lips are wet with the thought of turning over Dublin. I honestly cant see Louth putting up much of a struggle to them. Louth have a few years of improvement left before they can compete against a team like Cork who i would definately put in the top 5 in Ireland at the moment. After that Kerry i would guess: To be honest i think Kerry would be a toss-up against either Dublin or Cork. They are obviously not as strong this year but having said that are still a very good side. I suppose they are a team that could lose to either of us or could win comfortably depending on what their mindset is like. The Final is a hard one to call as id say it will be Tyrone v Dublin/Cork/Kerry. Tyrone are possibly the only team i see that have not deteriorated this year (well, Cork also but wouldnt have put them as contenders last year) and are still a very strong team. Unlike last year with Kerry however, i would not see them as almost unbeatable by the 3 possible opponents. Actually out of the 3 possibilities and going by the year so far, id say Kerry would find it toughest against them this year. I wouldnt rule out Dublin or Cork beating them but they would need to be at their absolute best to do it i think. All this of course is my opinion but thats the way i see it anyway. Also notice, to save any arguements, i havent done any predictions on Dublins side of the draw, also cos it is probably too close to call anyway

Mr. Incognito

Well to be honest, I think it's a bit more straight forward. You have to ask yourself, can you see Dublin outscoring Kerry? when they gave up 17 points to Laois. Not really.

Dublin have a decent half back line but the full backs give a lot of space away. The Kerry full forward line destroyed Dublin 2 years ago and that was without Donaghy breaking ball down to Gooch and Mike Frank / Quill. Wheelan can compete in midfield but the Kerry half back line won't give as much space as Laois or Meath who's half back line gave so much space away as they weren't tracking back. Also Kerry lost midfield against Cork in the second half in the Munster Final and made all their scores from turnovers in the defensive line.

Tyrone are disciplined and are at there best in tight defensive games. It'll be interesting to see how they try and counteract the High Ball defense as they have looked leeky under it. Monaghan could have had three goals from opportunities that were pumped in. I can't see the Gooch missing those chances. Although the Kerry management seem to favour this short passing game.

I still think Kerry are the team to beat.

Kinetic^

curiousgeorge19 wrote:

Looking at this over complicated GAA calendar trying to figure out when Dublin will play their semi-final tie? 19 or 26..

Jesus would ya STFU!!! We've a game before that so let's not jinx ourselves!!!! :rolleyes:

Nalced_irl

Well, on our day we could outscore Kerry, but our day would be without any sleepy patches with the forwards showing more vision and the backs getting tighter. To have a guess now id say Kerry about 70% of the time would win but that 30% or so is good enough if we can improve the areas that need it most. Alot of the Kerry forwards are not what they were last year. Donaghy isnt the same player by any means so i dont think he can be the same provider as we saw last year. The thing about Tyrone is that they can look like they are struggling against some weaker counties (not that Monaghan are weak) but when playing the bigger teams, they always come up with extra.

blackbelt

I'm writing in the hope that I won't be quoted and ridiculed but I don't think Dublin have even nearly peaked this year..Their performance against Laois was lacksadaisical at times but we still drummed out a 6 point defeat to them.

Kerry haven't really got out of second gear either with that 2 point win over Cork although they deserved to lose that game.We also may have seen Tyrone peak against Donegal whilst Donegal haven't seriously played well thus far and they may turn it around but wouldn't be too confident in them.Maybe Donegal weren't as good as we thought they were and were an easy game for Tyrone.I'm more convinced about Tyrone than Kerry though.Given the amount of challenging games,Tyrone have 2 compared to Kerrys 1.Dublin have three and Cork have one.

The way Munster is,Kerry are always in a top position to contend for Sam.They have an easier route than Leinster teams and Ulster teams.Thats why nobody could count out Dublin and Tyrone and Cork really do look dangerous.

One Cold Hand

I've been thinking this, there could be a lot of truth in what you say. We were awful against Offaly and managed to beat them comfortably enough. Far from brilliant against Laois and were 8 points up with 10mins to go. I suppose theres' 2 way of looking at it.
1. Stronger teams would beat us (not good!)
2. We can only beat what's put in front of us and there are signs of improvement (good!).

And there are signs of improvement. Ross settling in at Full back. Midfield improving. Vaughan settling in too. Keaney looking good. And still we haven't had a day when we're explosive and everything clicks into place. I'm just waiting for that day and it's going to be beautiful!! (And now I've gone and jinxed it! Doh!)

Nalced_irl

Weve been waiting years for that day One Cold Hand, but its coming i tell ya!! Thats the thing really, if and hopefully when everything clicks, i couldnt see any county living with us on that day. Hopefully it will be September this year

One Cold Hand

Yeah! The 23rd, by the way, as opposed to the 2nd or the 9th!

Nalced_irl

One Cold Hand wrote:

Yeah! The 23rd, by the way, as opposed to the 2nd or the 9th!

Of course

Nalced_irl

It looks like it is going to be an open draw by the way. I think this is good for Dublin, once we dont draw Cork anyway of course. From the Hogan Stand:
Quarter-final draw explained
17 July 2007


An open draw for the All-Ireland SFC quarter-finals will take place on the 29th July with the provincial champions set to meet the four third round qualifier winners.

In a change to the last two years, the pairings for the All-Ireland quarter-finals are not preordained along provincial lines. In 2005 and ’06, beaten provincial finalists were kept on the same side of the draw as the county which won the provincial final, meaning that there was no need for a quarter-final draw to take place.

This year a draw will take place with the provincial champions (Sligo, Kerry, Dublin and Tyrone) in one bowl and third round qualifier winners (Galway or Meath, Cork or Louth, Laois or Derry, and Monaghan or Donegal) in the other.

The draw is open with only one exception; teams that met in provincial finals cannot play one another again at the quarter-final stage. If the four beaten provincial finalists all win their round three qualifiers, they will not be allowed to be drawn against the teams from their own province.

However, teams that met earlier than the provincial final can be drawn together again. Should Meath and Donegal win their qualifier games then repeats of their games with Dublin and Tyrone respectively are a possibility.

The semi-final games are already set out with the Connacht and Ulster champions on one side of the draw and Munster and Leinster winners in the other half. Thus if the four provincial winners won their quarter-final games, the semi-final pairings would be Sligo v Tyrone and Kerry v Dublin.

K-9

Well if they beat Kerry and Tyrone to win it they'll have answered the questions above. If not, well back here again next year with the same questions!

Interesting championship though! Loads of other questions like can Kerry beat Tyrone, can Tyrone cope with the high ball to Donaghy (as SetantaL pointed out looked nervous in UF) or just leave those questions unanswered! can Dublin/Cork/Derry/Donegal/Monaghan provide a real surprise and leave us asking different questions come September!

Nalced_irl

Seanies32 wrote:

Well if they beat Kerry and Tyrone to win it they'll have answered the questions above. If not, well back here again next year with the same questions!

Interesting championship though! Loads of other questions like can Kerry beat Tyrone, can Tyrone cope with the high ball to Donaghy (as SetantaL pointed out looked nervous in UF) or just leave those questions unanswered! can Dublin/Cork/Derry/Donegal/Monaghan provide a real surprise and leave us asking different questions come September!

To your questions:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

I think Kerry are more than capable of beating Tyrone, whether they will or not is a different story. Tyrone are certainly looking better but when Kerry turn on the style and keep to their gameplan, they can be devistating.
Donaghy isnt in the same form as last year, however is obviously still a threat.
Finally, i think any of the teams you mentioned would be a surprise to see in the final, much less winning outright, yet not impossible. Seeing Cork Dublin or Donegal would be more likely than Monaghan Derry or Sligo but stranger things have happened. I couldnt see any of these 6 at present getting over both Kerry and Tyrone but with a few tough games along the way to bring them into it you would never know. Would love to see Dublin upset the odds but it is quite unlikely unless they improve alot.

K-9

Nalced_irl wrote:

I think Kerry are more than capable of beating Tyrone, whether they will or not is a different story. Tyrone are certainly looking better but when Kerry turn on the style and keep to their gameplan, they can be devistating.
Donaghy isnt in the same form as last year, however is obviously still a threat.

Yes, but unlike any other county in this decade so far they have proved they can handle Kerry. The big difference last year was Donaghy and Armagh weren't doing too bad till the last 15/20 minutes when McGeeney et al tired and couldn't cover the breaking ball as much.

Donaghy is a big difference but Dooher will love coming back and hoovering up the breaking ball. Don't know really, but would fancy Tyrone to nullify to a large extent Donaghy. Also depends on Mulligan and O'Neill doing the biz the other side!

Agreed that Donegal, Dublin or Cork would be more likely to get to a final than the rest but it depend on the draw. Would fancy Donegal given a decent draw to get to a AI Semi and who knows, on their day a AI, but having said that I'll take winning by 2/3 points on Sat. Derry are another team that seem to have solved their defensive problems and look at the talent in the forwards. They should take Laois, and on their day are good enough to beat Cork and the Dubs. Then again could lose to Laois.

I think it comes back to most of these teams on their day could take Tyrone or Kerry, it's taking both and maybe a tough Q/F as well that's the one. Armagh have found this out!

patmac

Just to let you know that the Dublin Quarter-Final is preceeded by the Nicky Rackard Cup Final between Armagh and Roscommon will be interesting to see how many tickets these two counties get probably about 1000 each.

Nalced_irl

Id say they will be screwed for tickets alright. I dont know about whether Armagh fans would be bothered making the trip for a match like this but it is a final afterall. Im sure a good few Roscommon fans would like to be there tho.

blackbelt

I won't be screwed for a ticket thank God.:)

Roll on 11th August.

GalwayDub2

Me neither.......I have the feelers out in Roscommon for tickets..