200nl deep staked QQ

unregd147

- steve1000 sitting in seat 1 with $55.52
- Honus sitting in seat 2 with $424.46
- Villian sitting in seat 3 with $460.75 [Dealer]
- Hero sitting in seat 4 with $328.45
- basiliosace1 sitting in seat 5 with $110.80
- BELCOO sitting in seat 6 with $92.50

Hero posted the small blind - $1.00
basiliosace1 posted the big blind - $2.00
** Dealing card to Hero: Queen of Hearts, Queen of Clubs
BELCOO folded
steve1000 folded
Honus raised - $8.00
Villian called - $8.00
Hero raised - $27.00
basiliosace1 folded
Honus folded
Villian called - $27.00

** Dealing the flop: 7 of Hearts, 10 of Clubs, 6 of Spades
Hero bet - $64.00
Villian called - $64.00

** Dealing the turn: 4 of Hearts
Hero bet - $96.00
Villian went all-in - $369.75

What to do??
Did I play this alright up to here?

Moneymaker

This screams a set to me. I'd fold. Although with the amount you've invested, you may be forced to call. I think you've bet too much on the flop, and you need to ask yourself after you've been called there, do I want to go broke on this hand? I'd havce either shoved the turn, and if he has a set, well done to him, otherwise, i'd have checked and see what he does. I'm putting the villian on 77 or 66 here with the smooth call on the flop though.

BobSloane

Need some info on villian here to make a decision. Any pt stats or betting patterns in general?
This deep I'd usually check behind on the turn though which may be right or wrong. You only have one pair and no draw after all!

cardshark202

any reads or stats?

unregd147

Over 100 hands villian is 30/18.6/50.

Van Dice

I think bet less on the flop, and check behind on the turn. Looks like you're wa/wb here and you don't need to bet to price out draws. He could have called you on the flop with a hand you beat, but it's v unlikely he CRAI on the turn with a hand you beat.

Ace2007

the bet on the turn of $96 looks weak imo, your betting less than half the pot. I think that on the turn, he could have picked up the nut flush draw with top pair, ie. he has A10 hearts, and hence he's reraiseing you since ur bet looks weak and even if you do call- he has alot of outs...

Chucky the tree

Do people call pre-flop 3bets from the SB with ATs at this level?!

Ace2007

Chucky the tree wrote:

Do people call pre-flop 3bets from the SB with ATs at this level?!

i dunno, i never play online, but in live games that i've play, yes ppl would.

Chucky the tree

Live game players are worse then online playrs though.

phantom_lord

Chucky the tree wrote:

Do people call pre-flop 3bets from the SB with ATs at this level?!

no

phantom_lord

i think he has a set almost always here .

unregd147

When he called the flop I put him on JJ. Either way I thought I had him at that stage, after his turn push I thought probably set. I called it because I just really didnt know wtf he had, at worst I still had 2outs.

Any guesses as to what he had??

BobSloane

i'll guess pocket 9s. still think u should check the turn tho

Ace2007

i'm sticking with A 10 hearts...

cardshark202

I would fold but I would also check the turn

dacman

You have alot invested at this point. id call.

MacStacked

dacman wrote:

You have alot invested at this point.

Thats really irrelevant.

dacman

MacStacked wrote:

Thats really irrelevant.

err you have nearly $200 invested and you might be up against A 10 or JJ. Pretty revelant if you ask me

digiman

I can't see what you might be be beating here at all, if I was villan and I would play my first two stats similar to him (I dont know what the last stat means here) but I play at 0.5/1 I could easily have a 66, 77 or TT here. Another hand I could easily have here given my position on the button is 89s, I woud have folded AT here though.
Why I could have 89s here is im on the button here and its the type of hand that I love to play from the button. I would definetly have called before you raised and then when you do raise OOP and its folded to me, I have to call 27 into a pot of around 50 which I call given this secanario. Being in position and being deep against an opponent who is OOP and also quite deep here I call with the above hands, if I have JJ-AA I am raising from here on the button.
I think your flop bet is fine but I check the turn as I dont think any decent player can think his T is good here unless he puts you on AK, I think he is only calling you with a set or I think maybe a straight.
Checking the turn is best I think, getting to showdown as cheaply as possible here is what you want I think, no need to inflate the pot here with what looks like a very marginal holding at this point.
I would also like to see your stats from the villans perspective as this could determine what he might be doing

In your position now I think you have to call the turn, if Im right its 133 for you into a pot of over 500 so I think he could semi bluff you here enough to make this profitable even though we are most likely behind at this stage and we also have 2 outs which would crush any set he has.

P.S I dont usually give replies this detailed to other people posts so if Im wrong go easy and tell me why

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Tar.Aldarion

over pair 1010 or den den den...

unregd147

- steve1000 sitting in seat 1 with $55.52
- Honus sitting in seat 2 with $424.46
- Villian sitting in seat 3 with $460.75 [Dealer]
- Hero sitting in seat 4 with $328.45
- basiliosace1 sitting in seat 5 with $110.80
- BELCOO sitting in seat 6 with $92.50

Hero posted the small blind - $1.00
basiliosace1 posted the big blind - $2.00
** Dealing card to Hero: Queen of Hearts, Queen of Clubs
BELCOO folded
steve1000 folded
Honus raised - $8.00
Villian called - $8.00
Hero raised - $27.00
basiliosace1 folded
Honus folded
Villian called - $27.00

** Dealing the flop: 7 of Hearts, 10 of Clubs, 6 of Spades
Hero bet - $64.00
Villian called - $64.00

** Dealing the turn: 4 of Hearts
Hero bet - $96.00
Villian went all-in - $369.75
Hero went all-in - $142.45

** Dealing the river: 8 of Spades
Hero shows: Queen of Hearts, Queen of Clubs
Villian shows: 4 of Diamonds, 4 of Clubs
Villian wins $665.90 from the main pot

End of game 790330992

MacStacked

dacman wrote:

err you have nearly $200 invested and you might be up against A 10 or JJ. Pretty revelant if you ask me

The money already invested in the pot has no bearing on your current decision. You shouldn't throw good money after bad so to speak. If he had invested only €20 euro but was getting 5 to 1 on a call would it be ok to fold because the op has invested realitively little?The decision has to be made based on the villans range, the current odds we are getting and the ev of our decision not some phoney attachment to money already in the pot.

*Counterfeit*

I'm with digiman here, maybe even 89o.

CelticPhantom

I was thinking 88 for the double belly buster