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Giblet

These threads keeping getting reported. If your thread is specific to Dublin, please post it here.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=474

Terry

Giblet wrote:

These threads keeping getting reported. If your thread is specific to Dublin, please post it here.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=474

Or there.

AlmightyCushion

Terry wrote:

Or there.

Ha ha. You're a smart little sh!te aren't ya.

Tar.Aldarion

What, I expected this to be started bu Biko as he went postal. Or the boards equivalent... which is capital letters.

cornbb

We want a sticky which specifies where Galway threads go, damnit!

/fist thumpage

Any chance of a Cryptosporidium forum?

Agent Smith

NORTH DUBLIN COUNTY
DUBLIN CITY
SOUTH COUNTY DUBLIN

aidan_walsh

cornbb wrote:

We want a sticky which specifies where Galway threads go, damnit!

Galways people don't need it. Dubliners can be just "special" enough to warrent the reminder, though.

Henceforth known as "biko's Law".

copacetic

Giblet wrote:

These threads keeping getting reported. If your thread is specific to Dublin, please post it here.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=474

there is a dublin forum for this stuff fella, post reported.

Giblet

I've banned people for less.

biko

Thanks Giblet!
Start banning for a week and maybe the word spreads?

Tar, I have already created threads about this long ago but they turned into "Why do mulchers hate beautiful Dublin so much" slagging matches.
It's apparent Dubs consider all fora as subs to Dublin forum.

Giblet

Depending on what happens, I'll delete it or ban people from now on. I'm not moving them.

Spud83

Up the Dubs. We get a Sticky:) Up yours rest of Ireland.

scojones

Giblet wrote:

Depending on what happens, I'll delete it or ban people from now on. I'm not moving them.

Yeah, I think I moved five or so threads yesterday. Getting quite sick of it now to be honest.

nesf

Deleting might work, but it's understandable that new users might confuse the idea of an Irish forum with one of a Dublin forum given the centralised mindset present in Jackeen genetics.

biko

If you just delete a thread there's a risk you'll get another "wtf, my thread is gone" thread. I guess a PM asking them to post in correct forum would work.

Giblet

Or maybe they could read the massive sticky....

Tchocky

and the snozzberries taste like snozzberries.

nesf

Giblet wrote:

Or maybe they could read the massive sticky....

Yes because we haven't been moving threads on a constant basis for years at this point so nobody would have noticed that they shouldn't have done it before now...

Giblet

Shut up ok shut up


KHHHHANNNNNNNNNNNN

Kobie

Boards is getting more uptight by the day. Seriously, who gives a @!#$?

copacetic

Kobie wrote:

Boards is getting more uptight by the day. Seriously, who gives a @!#$?

biko cares. a lot.

nesf

Kobie wrote:

Boards is getting more uptight by the day. Seriously, who gives a @!#$?

I take it you never saw Monty in his heyday then? We can only muster rusty iron mittens to rule this place with in comparison.

Gran Hermano

Dublin threads are banned from After Hours, yet a thread like
"The Galway Races - Who's comin West ?" is not moved to it's
appropriate regional forum. I'm sure if I started a thread
"The Leopardstown Races - Who's coming to Dublin?" it'd
be only moments for the usual complaints to be posted
and the thread to be moved to the Dublin fora.
(Even if the Leopardstown races were of potential interest to
people from outside of Dublin)

"All counties are equal in after-hours, but some are less equal
than others"

nesf

Actually no, I wouldn't move a thread asking who's coming to the Leopardstown Races. That's wouldn't be specifically of interest only to Dublin folk, similar to how the Galway Races thread above is relevant to more than just people living in Galway since it's a large event many people travel to.


We don't apply the rules blindly. Just because it's related to Dublin or any other specific region doesn't mean it gets moved. Threads get moved specifically because they refer to something that is only of interest to people in that region or (usually) because they ask a question specifically about that region.


There isn't an anti-Dublin bias being applied here. The blunt truth is that we very very rarely have to move any other kind of regional thread and yet daily we have several Dublin specific threads to move. That's why Dublin threads merit a sticky all of their own.

copacetic

some people do seem to have a chip on their shoulders about dublin threads though, the overhead seems to be because an awful lot of boardsies seem to be based in Dublin. A lot of threads on a lot of the forums are about Dublin issues but they aren't all moved to Dublin forums. Why can't after hours be the same, it is supposed to be 'anything and everything' isn't it?

Maybe a better plan than a sticky and the workload to move them would be to just let the threads alone and see how that works out?

Kinetic^

Paranormal threads go in the Paranormal forum.

nesf

This might actually be a good time to explain why some things are the way they are I think.

copacetic wrote:

some people do seem to have a chip on their shoulders about dublin threads though, the overhead seems to be because an awful lot of boardsies seem to be based in Dublin. A lot of threads on a lot of the forums are about Dublin issues but they aren't all moved to Dublin forums. Why can't after hours be the same, it is supposed to be 'anything and everything' isn't it?

Right, a few things. First I think most of those people are only having a bit of fun and making a fuss over it just because of the reaction it gets sometimes. We don't mind playful banter back and forth between different groups but believe me we do keep an eye on stuff like this and we don't move every thread that people report.

Secondly, other forums are different animals. They tend to have a core theme or topic under which threads must fall. Think of threads having attributes. A thread about shooting ranges in Dublin has two separate traits: It's a Dublin related thread and a shooting related thread. Now in the Shooting forum moderators don't look at the "regional tag" to decide whether the thread stays or not, only the "content tag" if you want to think of it that way. For almost every other forum the only tag that matters is the "content tag". This works great in nearly every forum, but not in AH. Here there is no "topic" that all threads should fall under. Everything can be construed to fall under the idea of a general forum if you wanted to do it. We don't want this forum to be a substitute for other forums it has its own purpose. As explained clearly in the charter this is the place to have light hearted discussion about general topics. We need to look at both the regional and content aspects of a thread to judge whether it is suitable to be in here.

Thirdly, we're not doing this out of spite, moving all these threads (and a lot of them crop up) means a fair amount of work for us to do. Regional threads do not belong here, we made this clear a long time ago (read: years). The only people who don't respect this rule are Dublin people, I put this down to there being more users from Dublin on this site than other areas but we're not going to allow one group to ignore a rule and make others obey it. Just because there are more Dublin users than anyone else doesn't meant that they get to "take over forums". Nobody gets preferential treatment on here (except maybe the admins because, like, they own the gaff).

copacetic wrote:

Maybe a better plan than a sticky and the workload to move them would be to just let the threads alone and see how that works out?

No. Regional threads no more belong here than threads about philosophy do or parenting or whatever. We've been patient with people and we don't ban people or delete/lock their threads and we go to the trouble (and sometimes it's a bitch) of finding the correct forum to move them. New users I can forgive but people with a couple of hundred posts who've been around for longer than a few months should know better.

AH is not the Dublin forum anymore than it is the Leitrim forum, people really just need to simply accept that.

copacetic

nesf wrote:

The only people who don't respect this rule are Dublin people, I put this down to there being more users from Dublin on this site than other areas but we're not going to allow one group to ignore a rule and make others obey it.

I see what you are saying Nesf, I just don't think its correct and imo the above seems to show the chip I was talking about. I don't see how you can say the 'Dublin people' don't respect the rule. It's just more likely that 80% of boardsies don't know about the rule and that the majority of those are from or living in Dublin. They see all types of threads on AH and just add one, it's not a flouting of the rules or a conspiracy. I don't believe for instance that Galway people or Cork people are all obeying the rule, it just seldom comes up that they have a local topic that would fit with AH.

Fair enough on the sticky and the moving policy, its all this talk of banning people (i.e 'Dubs') who dare to post in the wrong forum that gets me. I hope you guys never go that far. My point is that this is going to continue to happen, sticky or no sticky, it's simply a matter of demographics. Next we'll have a thread looking for Dublin to be filtered to ******!

Tar.Aldarion

Gran Hermano wrote:

Dublin threads are banned from After Hours, yet a thread like
"The Galway Races - Who's comin West ?" is not moved to it's
appropriate regional forum. I'm sure if I started a thread
"The Leopardstown Races - Who's coming to Dublin?" it'd
be only moments for the usual complaints to be posted
and the thread to be moved to the Dublin fora.
(Even if the Leopardstown races were of potential interest to
people from outside of Dublin)

"All counties are equal in after-hours, but some are less equal
than others"

I tyhought about moving it but ended up thinking it was fine here. Why would I move it to teh galway forum?
'Who in galway is coming to galway for the races?'

nesf

copacetic wrote:

I see what you are saying Nesf, I just don't think its correct and imo the above seems to show the chip I was talking about. I don't see how you can say the 'Dublin people' don't respect the rule. It's just more likely that 80% of boardsies don't know about the rule and that the majority of those are from or living in Dublin. They see all types of threads on AH and just add one, it's not a flouting of the rules or a conspiracy. I don't believe for instance that Galway people or Cork people are all obeying the rule, it just seldom comes up that they have a local topic that would fit with AH.

I wasn't implying a conspiracy or arrogance on their part or anything like that. As I said, there are more Dublin users here than any other individual area so you'd expect there to be more Dublin threads misposted if only because of the numbers of them posted. This was explaining why there's a specific Dublin thread rather than a regional thread in general. This sticky is aimed at the group who break the rule most often, that doesn't imply that that group are all troublemakers or whatever. The vast majority of regional threads that need moving are about Dublin (as in at least 90% of them if not more). I don't know exactly why people from Dublin are more likely to post off-topic regional threads about Dublin here more than any other group, but they do for some reason.

copacetic wrote:

Fair enough on the sticky and the moving policy, its all this talk of banning people (i.e 'Dubs') who dare to post in the wrong forum that gets me. I hope you guys never go that far. My point is that this is going to continue to happen, sticky or no sticky, it's simply a matter of demographics. Next we'll have a thread looking for Dublin to be filtered to ******!

We are only planning on banning people who are taking the piss. i.e. we're not going to ban a new user for posting in here by mistake. On the other hand, if a user posts a thread that should be in the Dublin forum several times over a short interval we might ban then.

darkman2

nesf wrote:

There isn't an anti-Dublin bias being applied here. The blunt truth is that we very very rarely have to move any other kind of regional thread and yet daily we have several Dublin specific threads to move. That's why Dublin threads merit a sticky all of their own.

Yeah but by the same token most of the population live in or near Dublin so naturally most things interesting that happen in the country happen there........so referencing Dublin is often unavoidable.

nesf

darkman2 wrote:

Yeah but by the same token most of the population live in or near Dublin so naturally most things interesting that happen in the country happen there........so referencing Dublin is often unavoidable.

Indeed. A good reason why we should have a busy Dublin forum no?

lightening

I am a user of the Dublin thread a good bit, mainly to try and help people who don't utilise one of the best cities in Europe. This is my first time on After Hours. There was a Gort thread that is now locked that wasn't moved to the appropiate forum. If it was about Dublin it would have been moved.

RoundyMooney

It wasn't locked because it was regional, it was locked because it was an awful ass thread. Why should it be inflicted on the Co. Galway forum?

It's a bit of a piss take too, when posters are castigated on thread for pointing out the existence of this sticky, and long standing policy on this forum.

Tar.Aldarion

It would have been locked if it was about somewhere in Dublin too. If I did not lock that thread I would have moved it to Galway. Hush

Terry

I moved a Limerick one yesterday.
Stop your bitchin'

The_B_Man

i cant find Dublin forum, only Dublin City!!


oooh pedantic! score!!

lightening

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

It would have been locked if it was about somewhere in Dublin too. If I did not lock that thread I would have moved it to Galway. Hush

Sorry... I misled you Tar, what I meant was it was about Gort and not moved, the fact it was appropiately locked was because of the ignorant content. Its good that you would have moved it.

Terry, nice one, stopin me bitchin now...