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Very interesting 1st hand of the SE 200

  • 08-07-2007 10:54am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭


    25:50 starting stack of 8000 and the first hand of the tournament

    Im UTG and raise to 175 with AKo, UTG+1 (Full-Tilt hat) calls and UTG+2 (friend of mine who is very tight) reraises to 600 - we both call.

    KJ2 rainbow
    I check with the intention of raising but they both check behind me.

    Turn 8c putting 2 clubs on the board.
    Again I check rather cautiously as I'd have to fold to a reraise.
    UTG+1 bets 1k, UTG+2 raises to 2.5k and is called (I folded).

    River I think was the 5c.
    UTG+1 goes All In for 3900 and after a dwell is called.
    UTG+1 has Kc9c for a flush while my friend has AKo also. Probably an easy fold for him but my check on the turn has probably put him out of the tournament.

    For the record I had 24k midway through level 3 and walked out the door about 2 hands into level 4 - another blow up.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Don't post results in your post.
    Hmmmn I don't understand your willing to to c/r the flop but don't bet the turn as your scared of bring raised??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭HeeHawsCantona


    Yeah I played the hand poorly and got away with losing the minimum.
    Often I'd have come back over the top preflop.
    Usually I'd have bet out biggish on the flop - but I'm not liking it if I get reraised by UTG+2 because at these stacks its almost being pot committed.
    The way its played however I'm happy with the check on the turn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭MacStacked


    Checkraising the flop would be really bad here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭HeeHawsCantona


    Why do you say that Mac? I was planning to Check-Raise All In.
    If I bet (1200-1300) and get raised I probably have no option given the stacks but to fold or push - remember I've been reraised preflop so I'm behind to AA, KK and JJ so I probably have to fold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    c/r is bad because anything that will call you beats you so your turning your hand into a bluff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Gus Ivey


    yea bet the flop, for a small bet you would receive information on villians holdings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    I saw this hand and thought it was pretty funny. You played it fine, I definitely wouldn't check raise the flop, if he is as tight as you say you will nearly always be beaten when called. I would of led the turn but checking is ok.

    The other guy with AK played his hand really really awfully. I think the river bet was for more than 3900, it was close to 5k I think.

    I was two to your left, you knocked me out with A3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,956 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    starting stack 8K, bet on flop 600, bet on turn 2.5K
    how can he go all in for 3.9K,

    2.5 + .6 = 3.1, 8 - 3 .1 = 4. 9

    P.S - why do ppl love AK so much - its a rubbish hand, you raise pre flop, most ppl know roughly wat u have and therefore if a low flop comes, ur screwed, and then if a flop like this one game- yous both checked??? LIMP in...

    or is it just me, who slows play everything(including AA and KK) in tournments...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭HeeHawsCantona


    Yes correct - 4900 - makes it even worse.
    Very unlucky with the hand against my A3 Hector - I guess you thought I may have flopped a set of 3's and thats why you didn't push to my reraise. It was pretty hard to get away from your hand when I pushed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭bottom feeder


    25:50 starting stack of 8000 and the first hand of the tournament

    Im UTG and raise to 175 with AKo, UTG+1 (Full-Tilt hat) calls and UTG+2 (friend of mine who is very tight) reraises to 600 - we both call.

    KJ2 rainbow
    I check with the intention of raising but they both check behind me.
    Turn 8c putting 2 clubs on the board.
    Again I check rather cautiously as I'd have to fold to a reraise.UTG+1 bets 1k, UTG+2 raises to 2.5k and is called (I folded).

    River I think was the 5c.
    UTG+1 goes All In for 3900 and after a dwell is called.
    UTG+1 has Kc9c for a flush while my friend has AKo also. Probably an easy fold for him but my check on the turn has probably put him out of the tournament.

    For the record I had 24k midway through level 3 and walked out the door about 2 hands into level 4 - another blow up.

    ??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭HeeHawsCantona


    I think this makes sense here.
    He's very ABC and if he reraises from this position I'm giving him credit for a premium hand here almost always - AA KK QQ AK - I dont like my AK here at all and I dont like my call from EP.
    The flops come KJ2 - I can see everyones point here about the planned check raise being a poor play but I dont like a bet here either - when it's gone check check behind i just had a feeling that someone had hit - and the turn has got to further add to the possibilities of a set.
    I think I should have repopped it to 1500 preflop and folded to a reraise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    I think this makes sense here.
    He's very ABC and if he reraises from this position I'm giving him credit for a premium hand here almost always - AA KK QQ AK -


    I think I should have repopped it to 1500 preflop and folded to a reraise.

    why not just fold instead if that's the range u put him on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭HeeHawsCantona


    Yes I considered this and perhaps should have out of position


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Yes correct - 4900 - makes it even worse.
    Very unlucky with the hand against my A3 Hector - I guess you thought I may have flopped a set of 3's and thats why you didn't push to my reraise. It was pretty hard to get away from your hand when I pushed.

    I thought there was a very small chance you had a set of threes, but it was unlikely. I just called because if I thought against your range on the flop a call was much better. I thought you either had a ten, (KT AT or so on) or a poor hand like 22 or 77 (or A3!) that you knew probably wasn't good but were turning into a bluff. If I push the flop you cant call with a bluff (obviously) and you would almost certainly fold KQ QT, so I gambled trying to win a big pot. I never had any intention of folding.

    The 3 was a bad card on the turn for me because if you were slowplaying an overpair you retook the lead, but I still thought I had to call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭bottom feeder


    Yes I considered this and perhaps should have out of position
    i think you answered this yourself here, if you knew your friend had a premium hand and your out of position / then its a fold PF...


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