2 Pair - 50 NL 200+ BB deep

dvdfan

Green Joke Poker Monaco 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button ($29.15)
SB ($54.65)
BB Hero ($114.58)
UTG ($46)
UTG+1 ($160.09)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with A 5
1 fold, UTG+1 calls 0.50, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop (1.25) 7 Q A
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 1.50, Hero raises to 5.75, UTG+1 raises to 8.50, Hero calls 4.25.

Turn (21.25) 5
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 17, Hero calls 17.

River (55.25) 4
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 33, Hero calls 33

Villains Stats 32/11/3.5 450 Hands
Villain is regular multitabler, seems ok and dosent get out of line but i have a couple of notes one that he min raises light and 2 that he min raises with draws which is why i 3bet because i felt i may be ahead and he might have the FD but when he 4bet me i figured he was strong although it was a min raise again. I didnt want to bet the turn because were so deep and i would be put in a situation where the pot gets out of control, is this weak because if this was 100bb id be ready to get all in here but i dont have much experience playing this deep. So discuss the optimal plays on turn and river as i wouldnt really play the flop any different giving the villains tendencies.

cardshark202

Why are you check-raising the flop? I don't like that play at all, especially vs a decent regular

Macspower

TBH I don't like the hand at all....

Where do I start??

Lead the flop... fold to RR

Lead the turn call any bet.

I can't see the word min raiser and decent player going together :rolleyes:

Mac

dvdfan

from Original Post wrote:

but i have a couple of notes one that he min raises light and 2 that he min raises with draws which is why i 3bet because i felt i may be ahead and he might have the FD

We had a bit of history where he was RR light and with draws i didnt want to give him a cheap look at the turn, would you fold to someone like this and if so will he not just run over me, if he has a draw here and i lead hell likely come over the top with another min RR here anyway????

Im more interested in my play from the turn on, although i am interested to hear how i could play the flop better too giving the read. Are they easy calls?

Hes not what id call a decent player in the sense of how he plays, hes loose and he min raises alot for example but he seems to be a winning player and why wouldnt he with a donk like me as hes ATM, he also will bluff a bit if he misses draws on the river but at the time i didnt know this.

cooker3

Well has he ever 3 bet min raised lot because this is very differant from just min raising light if that makes sense.
I don't like the c/r tbh, prefer a bet 3 bet in that situation.
I would probably donk the turn or c/r if he is so loose and aggro.
As played on river, not sure, would he call a c/r on river with just pair of aces?
I probably just check call if he likes to be rivers when he misses draws.

dvdfan

cooker3 wrote:

Well has he ever 3 bet min raised lot because this is very differant from just min raising light if that makes sense.
I don't like the c/r tbh, prefer a bet 3 bet in that situation.
I would probably donk the turn or c/r if he is so loose and aggro.
As played on river, not sure, would he call a c/r on river with just pair of aces?
I probably just check call if he likes to be rivers when he misses draws.

Yeah maybe im trying to excuse my bad play because he plays bad. I find it difficult against tricky players like this as i tend to do stupid stuff like above just because hes likely to do stupid stuff. And as you said this is a different situation because hes raised first and not 3bet me so i was just trying to play back at him when i didnt need to.

What about my turn and river decisions check/call, is this ok or should i lead either, i felt leading either would just induce his min 3bet and possibly leave me with a harder decision so i felt this was the best way to keep the pot under control although his PSB didnt help.