What does God wear

MooseJam

Hi All,
Serious question !
We are taught that man was created in the image of God, so either God wears clothes in heaven or he is naked, I'd find it strange for God to be naked so he probably wears clothes, do you think these would be clothes he would "magic up" or would he import clothes from earth.

Medin

MooseJam wrote:

Hi All,
Serious question !
We are taught that man was created in the image of God, so either God wears clothes in heaven or he is naked, I'd find it strange for God to be naked so he probably wears clothes, do you think these would be clothes he would "magic up" or would he import clothes from earth.

Hi, statement that man was created in the image of God is a man made statement. Forget about clothes. It's saying a lie on God.

MooseJam

Medin wrote:

Hi, statement that man was created in the image of God is a man made statement. Forget about clothes. It's saying a lie on God.

Its in the bible Genesis 1:26-28 states: And God
said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness - I thought everything in the bible is true

Medin

MooseJam wrote:

Its in the bible Genesis 1:26-28 states: And God
said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness - I thought everything in the bible is true

No, of course not. One simple example is that Jesus is called a pious servant of God. Now if Jesus is God, then how do you imagine a pious God?? Not quite possible. Or how do you imagine God to be servant? Whose servant? Servant of Himself? Of course not. Not possible and ridiculous. But then again, if Jesus is servant of God, then Jesus is not God. Next: Jesus cannot be equal to God (the Father as Christians call Him) as he is clearly called His pious servant, and yet you will find many statements that God and Jesus are not equal. But still, the Church claim this to be true. So if everything is true in the Bible, then Bible has contradictions that cannot be resolved.

Here is a good example of Jesus being a servant of God (there are even better ones in the Bible):
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%203;&version=31;

About the clothes:
How can The Creator be equal to His creature??
OK, let's make it simple. Your concluding that "God must have clothes or...", but then this would mean He is in a need for clothes, right? But that is not a perfect God. Everything and everyone needs God, but He does not need anything/anyone.

Victor

No offense, but does it really matter? I don't think God gets cold or wet and shame is a human thing. So I don't think God has need of clothes.

Tzetze

Maybe he and his neighbour shop at the same place?

medin wrote:

But that is not a perfect God. Everything and everyone needs God, but He does not need anything/anyone.

Let's just assume he does exist for a minute. Doesn't he require that all his minions believe in him? What happens if all of his creation were to cease in their belief? Would he poof in a wisp of loneliness?

/assumation ends.

MooseJam

Medin wrote:

About the clothes:
How can The Creator be equal to His creature??
OK, let's make it simple. Your concluding that "God must have clothes or...", but then this would mean He is in a need for clothes, right? But that is not a perfect God. Everything and everyone needs God, but He does not need anything/anyone.

Well I would imagine God would appear in the form of man for our benefit so I'm thinking he would need clothes to do so, it would be a bit strange to see God with his bits out !

Medin

MooseJam wrote:

Well I would imagine God would appear in the form of man for our benefit so I'm thinking he would need clothes to do so, it would be a bit strange to see God with his bits out !

Although ur maybe sarcastic with no bad intentions, but wud u not think ur statement os very offensive??

Medin

Tzetze wrote:

Maybe he and his neighbour shop at the same place?



Let's just assume he does exist for a minute. Doesn't he require that all his minions believe in him? What happens if all of his creation were to cease in their belief? Would he poof in a wisp of loneliness?

/assumation ends.

No, of course not. God was when even time wasn't. So what makes you think God needs creation? Perhaps creation is there out of His Mercy.

Why do (perhaps all?) Christians imagine God as human?? For example, that God has feelings like we do, feels pain like we do, etc. Where are you ppl getting this from?

MooseJam

Medin wrote:

Although ur maybe sarcastic with no bad intentions, but wud u not think ur statement os very offensive??

umm yes badly phrased I guess, apologies, but it's what got me wondering about the whole clothes issue !

Tzetze

Medin wrote:

No, of course not. God was when even time wasn't. So what makes you think God needs creation? Perhaps creation is there out of His Mercy.

Well, being an Atheist, I was paraphrasing what I've heard Christians speak of. I don't have any belief in that type of a God. I certainly don't think that God needs creation, but more that creation is it's own god.

See my sig.

Edit: sorry for taking this off-topic.

Wibbs

Medin wrote:

No, of course not. One simple example is that Jesus is called a pious servant of God. Now if Jesus is God, then how do you imagine a pious God?? Not quite possible.

If God is everything and everywhere and everywhen. The entireity of existence then surely he can be pious? I presume He could be anything at all. Beyond imaginings.

Or how do you imagine God to be servant? Whose servant? Servant of Himself?

Again the same as before.

Not possible and ridiculous.

I understood that everything wa spossible to God.

then Bible has contradictions that cannot be resolved.

So has every holy book out there.

OK, let's make it simple. Your concluding that "God must have clothes or...", but then this would mean He is in a need for clothes, right? But that is not a perfect God. Everything and everyone needs God, but He does not need anything/anyone.

Again you're the one restricting the concept of God. In that concept He can do anything need everything, need nothing. He could walk down the street in a fur coat if He wanted. Even as agnostic this concept of God is hardly limiting. Quite the opposite. You see to have the idea of God as this king like figure. A super Emperor that needs respect or he'll bite you. The big daddy in the sky that'll smack you if you've been a bad boy. If he needs nothing why does he need worship and why does he need respect. makes no sense really.

Although ur maybe sarcastic with no bad intentions, but wud u not think ur statement os very offensive??

How can God take offence? Offence is a human characteristic. If he can take offence, surely he would also have that greater human characteristic, a sense of humour? Plus surely he would know the intention in MooseJam's heart. So what's the big deal. Again you're ascribing human emotions to a concept far beyond that(and including that of course).

No, of course not. God was when even time wasn't. So what makes you think God needs creation? Perhaps creation is there out of His Mercy.

Need and mercy are human ideas and constructs. Why accept some of those in a God and not others, like laughter?

Why do (perhaps all?) Christians imagine God as human?? For example, that God has feelings like we do, feels pain like we do, etc.

Well you seem to think he feels offence and may get angry and vengeful. Where's the difference? he could be human, he could be a tree, He could be anything he damn well wanted to be. Surely that's the very definition of a God. If he's all things and everywhere, he's the pc in front of you, the song you can't get out of your head, the rain outside. etc, Why couldn't he choose to be human?

Where are you ppl getting this from?

Holy books, just different ones to yours.

Hey I'm an agnostic, I don't know for sure what's "out there", but if God existed and I met him, I'd prefer a god, who I could be with, talk with, laugh with and learn amazing stuff about him and the universe(like where do my socks go to). Something that was pure love as well thrown in for good measure. That's the kind of God that would earn respect. Not one who takes a hissy fit, because someone imagined him naked. Hell, Michaelangelo painted him naked. I'm sure he's pleased with that. If Michaelangelo did my passport photo I'd be well chuffed. Why imagine agod that has the worse human traits like anger, vengefulness etc. and neglect the good human traits?

philologos

Tzetze wrote:

Let's just assume he does exist for a minute. Doesn't he require that all his minions believe in him? What happens if all of his creation were to cease in their belief? Would he poof in a wisp of loneliness?

/assumation ends.

He'd most likely punish those who had rejected him. The Exile happened for a reason.

rediguana

I'm sure he just wears regular stuff. I can't imagine he goes in for all the names.

Gran Hermano

I reckon he wears these to the office on dress-down Fridays just like
the rest of us:

Medin

Wibbs wrote:

If God is everything and everywhere and everywhen. The entireity of existence then surely he can be pious? I presume He could be anything at all. Beyond imaginings. Again the same as before. I understood that everything wa spossible to God. So has every holy book out there.

Again you're the one restricting the concept of God. In that concept He can do anything need everything, need nothing. He could walk down the street in a fur coat if He wanted. Even as agnostic this concept of God is hardly limiting. Quite the opposite. You see to have the idea of God as this king like figure. A super Emperor that needs respect or he'll bite you. The big daddy in the sky that'll smack you if you've been a bad boy. If he needs nothing why does he need worship and why does he need respect. makes no sense really.


How can God take offence? Offence is a human characteristic. If he can take offence, surely he would also have that greater human characteristic, a sense of humour? Plus surely he would know the intention in MooseJam's heart. So what's the big deal. Again you're ascribing human emotions to a concept far beyond that(and including that of course).
Need and mercy are human ideas and constructs. Why accept some of those in a God and not others, like laughter?

Well you seem to think he feels offence and may get angry and vengeful. Where's the difference? he could be human, he could be a tree, He could be anything he damn well wanted to be. Surely that's the very definition of a God. If he's all things and everywhere, he's the pc in front of you, the song you can't get out of your head, the rain outside. etc, Why couldn't he choose to be human? Holy books, just different ones to yours.

Hey I'm an agnostic, I don't know for sure what's "out there", but if God existed and I met him, I'd prefer a god, who I could be with, talk with, laugh with and learn amazing stuff about him and the universe(like where do my socks go to). Something that was pure love as well thrown in for good measure. That's the kind of God that would earn respect. Not one who takes a hissy fit, because someone imagined him naked. Hell, Michaelangelo painted him naked. I'm sure he's pleased with that. If Michaelangelo did my passport photo I'd be well chuffed. Why imagine agod that has the worse human traits like anger, vengefulness etc. and neglect the good human traits?

I've just 1 tiny question for you : is it not enough that He created you to have your respect?

Wibbs

Medin wrote:

I've just 1 tiny question for you : is it not enough that He created you to have your respect?

If I believed, and given the vagueness of the whole concept that's difficult enough, then respect fine. Why fear? Indeed, in the end why respect? Why does God need our respect? Again respect and the need and want of same is all too human a concept.

Medin

Wibbs wrote:

If I believed, and given the vagueness of the whole concept that's difficult enough, then respect fine. Why fear? Indeed, in the end why respect? Why does God need our respect? Again respect and the need and want of same is all too human a concept.

Gratefulness then? Almighty doesn't need your gratitude, so then at least let's say: acknowledgement? Can you at least acknowledge that He created you? If not, then who did?

Wibbs

Medin wrote:

Gratefulness then? Almighty doesn't need your gratitude, so then at least let's say: acknowledgement? Can you at least acknowledge that He created you? If not, then who did?

I could easily say my parents "created" me. I've certainly seen more evidence of them than God. With respect, you're still avoiding the question of giving God human emotions and needs. Why does He need my acknowledgement? Anyway, surely the best gift is given without expectation of acknowledgement?

Irish Wolf

Medin wrote:

Can you at least acknowledge that He created you? If not, then who did?

Their mother and father!

philologos

Who created the first mother and father?

robindch

The Flying Spaghetti Monster did, blessed be His Holy Appendage.

BrianCalgary

back to the OP. When the Bible says that we are created in the image of God, it means that we carry his emotions, for one thing. We are able to love, as He loves.

God is a spiritual being, who I can't quite fathom. When He became man, in Jesus Christ, He dressed in the style of the day.

So to answer your question, what does God wear; I have no idea, because I can't imagine a spiritual being.