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anybody here do judo?

  • 05-07-2007 6:40pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭


    hi all

    does anybody here practice judo and if so could they give me their opinion on it.id be interested in going if there is any place near the midlands!I tried karate for a while but the endless kata's and talking and no sparring allowed policy bugged me!i understand sparring is a big part in judo?

    Thanks in advance to any judo fanatics:)
    Remmy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I've been training judo for the past year. I love it. Yes, you will have to spar in every class. Sparring is a big part of judo and there is a few competitions every year you will be able to go to for added fun :)

    There are katas you will need to know for grading in judo, but don't let that put you off - you will probably only spend some classes coming up to the grading working on it, the rest of the time you'll be training technique and sparring. From blue belt onwards, you need to fight for your belts on top of your kata.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    ah excelente sounds deadly!:) so what kinda stuff would i be starting off on?would I be in it long before we would start doing hip throws?Is there any places in the midlands that teach judo?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    http://www.irishjudoassociation.ie/ - Check here for clubs in your area.

    The first thing you will learn to do is to fall correctly. This is called breakfalling. It depends on your club what throws you will learn first.. But You will probably learn osoto-gari (http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/osotogari.htm), o-goshi (http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/ogoshi.htm) and seoi-nage (http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/ipponseoi.htm).. This may vary from school to school - but these are the first three throws I learned.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is a blurb I wrote a while ago for the website of my college club on what to expect at a typical session. Might be helpful

    "A typical training session starts and finishes with a group bow. We then warm up. This usually involves running around the mat, followed by some very simple sport specific drills and stretching. After that we usually do some ukemi or breakfalling. This involves some basic gymnastics like rolling forwards, backwards and sideways, tumbling, cartwheels and handstands. This trains your body to get used to falling, a skill you'll find very useful in judo. Don't feel intimidated by it if you can't do it at first. After that we usually work on either tachiwaza (throwing) or newaza (ground) techniques. A technique or combination of techniques will be demostrated multiple times, with the key movements and concepts highlighted and explained. It will then be drilled by the class. Tachiwaza techniques will tend to be drilled by either nagekomi, uchikomi, crash mat training or a combination of all three (see terminology). Newaza techniques are generally drilled by performing them to completion. Techniques are at first performed with no resistance, later resistance will be added to make it more realistic. Randori generally follows.This is one-on-one sparring where partners attempt to resist and counter each other's techniques. This is not generally done at 100% speed, but slowed down to accommodate differing speed/strength levels between partners and to ensure the focus is on developing technique and not on "winning”. After randori, we warm down, stretch and finish as we started, with a bow. "

    Nagekomi= Throwing practice where the technique is completed
    Uchikomi= Throwing practice where the technique is not fully completed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    yup, illegaheadbutt pretty much covered a class.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭lemansky


    Remmy wrote:
    no sparring allowed policy

    Really? Jesus. Where I do kenpo karate sparring is a major thing, taken seriously. 99% of the time we spar in class and people always do it afterwards. I know in some systems you only have to fight for your belts once above a certain rank, but with us its fight for every belt fronm day one, so sparring always plays a big part in class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    thanks for the replies guys!:D

    I found out there is a judo class going on in my area in the next week!Its being held in a gaa club .thats making me wonder about wheter or not they have mats which would mean no sparring just theory right?i'll take a wander down anyway and see what its like though!hope for the best!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Naos


    Remmy they should have mats.

    Judo is an 'alive' art, something you will read many times if you frequent this board. Essentially it means that you train on resisting partners and you learn how to do a technique fully from start to finish, no punching/kicking the air type training.

    Enjoy the session though, its an excellent art and will be great for your fitness.

    Check out youtube.com for some excellent Judo highlights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭dent


    Just stared Judo myself (On summer break now though :() and I absolutely love it. Have to say I'm throughly addicted I'm sure you will be too :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    dent wrote:
    Just stared Judo myself (On summer break now though :() and I absolutely love it. Have to say I'm throughly addicted I'm sure you will be too :D


    Where are you training?

    You should try visit another club over the summer months as all Judo clubs will accept members from another. Except in the case of the Irish Judo Association -V- Judo Ireland, but thats a discussion for another day.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Had a look at the judo association website but there doesn't appear to be any clubs with contact numbers on the southside, apart from Ballyfermot which is a bit of a trek for me.

    Anyone know of judo clubs in and around Dublin 6, 14, 16, 24?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭paddyc


    where you training judo as the place i was looking at cos its 5 mins away just closed for the summer as well


    thanks paddy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    jesus im excited to see what its like now:D !mine is on wednesday!Obviously i dont have a gi yet.will i be able to spar untill i get one? hey completely unrelated question do they practice choke throws in judo?:D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you bring a rugby jersey, or something else which can take a tug you'll be ok to begin with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭ColinJennings


    Anyone know of judo clubs in and around Dublin 6, 14, 16, 24?

    I'd love to know too, but last time I asked, I was told there were no clubs, other than the UCD club on the southside.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Re. training and having no Gi.

    Guys I picked up a JudoGi in JJB sports (Blanchardstown) a few year's ago for just thirty Euro and its still in great nick. I've seen them still at the same price a few months back.

    Their probably alittle soft for competition use, but for club/randori use their fine.

    Another thing guys, if our club is on a summer break, like I said earlier, another judo club will welcome you with open arm's so there's no reason why you should be on a summer break if your dedicated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 GufuuByThePound


    Remmy I've been doing Judo for over 13 years (3rd dan) among other martial arts. Personally, I love it or else I wouldn't have been doing it for so long of a time. Judo develops strength throughout the whole body since one has to endure the necessary training for it. The first thing that you should learn, as already said, is to learn how to fall properly. If you don't know how to fall properly you won't get very far in Judo.
    It's not a martial art for those who are not into being thrown, choked and probably hurt during some training.
    Judo has its own set of katas, just like karate does but the katas aren't identical.
    Randori is one way to test your strengths and weaknesses.
    Hope you enjoy it as much as I do :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 GufuuByThePound


    Remmy I've been doing Judo for over 13 years (3rd dan) among other martial arts. Personally, I love it or else I wouldn't have been doing it for so long of a time. Judo develops strength throughout the whole body since one has to endure the necessary training for it. The first thing that you should learn, as already said, is to learn how to fall properly. If you don't know how to fall properly you won't get very far in Judo.
    It's not a martial art for those who are not into being thrown, choked and probably hurt during some training.
    Judo has its own set of katas, just like karate does but the katas aren't identical.
    Randori is one way to test your strengths and weaknesses.
    Hope you enjoy it as much as I do :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭dent


    paddyc wrote:
    where you training judo as the place i was looking at cos its 5 mins away just closed for the summer as well


    thanks paddy
    Mairt wrote:
    Where are you training?


    You should try visit another club over the summer months as all Judo clubs will accept members from another. Except in the case of the Irish Judo Association -V- Judo Ireland, but thats a discussion for another day.

    I'm training out in Lusk :) Its a beginners class but there are always a few black belts. I'm going to be working near Harcourt street and I reckon the nearest club would be Kevin Street. But thats probably closed for the summer too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    dent wrote:
    I'm training out in Lusk :) Its a beginners class but there are always a few black belts. I'm going to be working near Harcourt street and I reckon the nearest club would be Kevin Street. But thats probably closed for the summer too.


    We occasionally get lads down to Portmarnock from Lusk. Some people will say Portmarnock Judo isn't for beginner's as its a tough randori session, but I've never seen anyone say they haven't loved it there.

    You could also drop down to Killester where the instruction by John Douglas, Donal Tanney & Tommy O'Hara is mostly technical with very soft randori.

    Failing those two there's Leo Gibbon's out in Swords who run's a fine Judo club. The last time I was up with Leo it was mostly junior's and some College students, and again the instruction is first class.

    All their contact details are on www.irishjudoassociation.com

    FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAILING all that you could try Brazillian Jiu Jitsu with Andy Ryan at www.sbgnorthside.com (Andy's a high profile Judo fighter too). He has a Judo programme going down there, but I understand its off for the summer. But if you got a handle on BJJ you'll be great on the ground when you go back to Judo. He also has a first class, full time gym down here too.

    Your spoilt for choice, so no more excuse's why your not on the mat!.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭dent


    Mairt wrote:
    We occasionally get lads down to Portmarnock from Lusk. Some people will say Portmarnock Judo isn't for beginner's as its a tough randori session, but I've never seen anyone say they haven't loved it there.

    You could also drop down to Killester where the instruction by John Douglas, Donal Tanney & Tommy O'Hara is mostly technical with very soft randori.

    Failing those two there's Leo Gibbon's out in Swords who run's a fine Judo club. The last time I was up with Leo it was mostly junior's and some College students, and again the instruction is first class.

    All their contact details are on www.irishjudoassociation.com

    FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAILING all that you could try Brazillian Jiu Jitsu with Andy Ryan at www.sbgnorthside.com (Andy's a high profile Judo fighter too). He has a Judo programme going down there, but I understand its off for the summer. But if you got a handle on BJJ you'll be great on the ground when you go back to Judo. He also has a first class, full time gym down here too.

    Your spoilt for choice, so no more excuse's why your not on the mat!.

    Thanks Mairt way to make me feel lazy :D I did Trad Jujutsu for a good few years so I'm no stranger to Radori. Might try and make it to portmarnock.

    Thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭mayhem#


    Remmy I've been doing Judo for over 13 years

    How are your knees?
    ;-)

    E.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Anyone know of a Class in Clare or Limerick City region a real lack of judo in the southwest!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Marty Mc


    Maybe this will cause a few disputes..but unintentional....anyway, here goes nothing.....where is the top judo club in the country?...or who is the top judo club in the country?....

    Is the northern ireland opens regarded as one of irelands premier judo comps?....

    please exuse, Beginners questions i know!!!!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Mairt wrote:
    Where are you training?

    You should try visit another club over the summer months as all Judo clubs will accept members from another. Except in the case of the Irish Judo Association -V- Judo Ireland, but thats a discussion for another day.

    Alot of the clubs shut down for the summer. :( Since alot of Martial Arts clubs outside of Dublin and Cork are held in community centres they tend to close down for summer and other holidays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭-TK^Creator


    awww judo how i miss thee, did if for about 6 months in school in 6th year was so much fun, unfortunately i hated throwing just never got into it for some reason and then i always getting it re-explainded to me over and over again (i was talller than everyone in class except 2 ppl and they were heavy :rolleyes: ) (in hapakido i was shoulder throwing a 14 stone guy for a good while but then he fell on bad part of mat and hurt his head/neck not badly but it was enough to knock my confidence of throwing for a good while, back to practing on lighter peeps) but i loved the sparring especially the ground work so much fun. i love choking ppl feeling the life slowly leave them as the they go soft and limp.....yes....haven't had that feeling of power in a while...must feed again soon....:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 493 ✭✭King.Penguin


    Marty Mc wrote:
    Maybe this will cause a few disputes..but unintentional....anyway, here goes nothing.....where is the top judo club in the country?...or who is the top judo club in the country?....

    Is the northern ireland opens regarded as one of irelands premier judo comps?....

    please exuse, Beginners questions i know!!!!:D

    obviously saying one club is better than another is just asking for trouble. it's an subjective decision and by saying one is better than another is just insulting to others. however, the best club i've trained in is Coolmine Judo club in Dublin. This is because some of the current best <60,<66,<73,<81,<90kg guys train there and the coach is a former *******n. There is also a host of other blackbelts that train there regularly.

    Up the north I hear Ciaran Ward is a great coach and is himself a former *******n. Alonzo henderson, another guy that went to the olympics is also considered by many to be one of the best judo teachers in the country.

    Again that's just my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Marty Mc


    Reason i ask...it not to sh*t stir....have a club near by and in attendance there is a ladies silver medalist in the commonwealths, a master gold medalist in commonwealths, a masters European champion, masters world champion (late fifties in age), numberous commonwealth competitors....numberous black belts that attend...one night i counted 13 black belts in attendance and thought wooowww....this has to be a great club...but as i say i have little or no judo knowledge...thought this was very impressive tho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 493 ✭✭King.Penguin


    sounds like jim tollunds club.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Marty Mc


    U hit the proverbal nail on the head...seems like a top club...top class coaching too...alot of experienced judo players and black belts in abundance....but as i said i know little or nothing about judo...but it really made a great impression..poetry in motion...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    Remmy wrote:
    I tried karate for a while but the endless kata's and talking and no sparring allowed policy bugged me!

    This is not karate's policy, this is that particular club's policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 493 ✭✭King.Penguin


    Marty Mc wrote:
    U hit the proverbal nail on the head...seems like a top club...top class coaching too...alot of experienced judo players and black belts in abundance....but as i said i know little or nothing about judo...but it really made a great impression..poetry in motion...:)

    well you should pop down and give it a shot and there us how you found it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    dent wrote:
    I reckon the nearest club would be Kevin Street. But thats probably closed for the summer too.

    Speaking of which, anyone train here or have a contact for the club? Does anyone know if they're still open to the public? I tried to get in touch with someone to find out, but both addresses from the DIT website no longer exist...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Cake Fiend wrote:
    Speaking of which, anyone train here or have a contact for the club? Does anyone know if they're still open to the public? I tried to get in touch with someone to find out, but both addresses from the DIT website no longer exist...

    you can find out at www.fightingireland.com Just click on the clubs list at the top of the page. For the most part University based MA clubd are closed for the summer so you may have to wait until Sept.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 493 ✭✭King.Penguin


    to the best of my knowledge the dit judo club is currently only open to students of dit during the college term.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭dent


    Alonzo henderson, another guy that went to the olympics is also considered by many to be one of the best judo teachers in the country.

    Again that's just my opinion.

    Most feared Judo man I know of. Where is he teaching?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 493 ✭✭King.Penguin


    Maynooth (not the college) during the week and on saturdays at 2/3 I think. I've lost touch with him so don't know the exact details sorry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Garry Bergin


    Remmy,

    hope you enjoy your first class, I've been doing judo for over 10 years now (2nd Dan), and love it as well as other martial arts. Just remember to learn how to fall properly and tap out quickly coz you will get thrown and you will get caught in submissions. Just pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back in and learn.... that the best advice I can give you .

    As far a instructors go I would personally recommend the following in no particular order ( have to cover my ass you know!! )

    Andy Ryan - Sbg Northside
    Ray Stears - Portmarnock
    Kieran Foley - Coolmine

    Best of luck again

    Garry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Remmy,

    hope you enjoy your first class, I've been doing judo for over 10 years now (2nd Dan), and love it as well as other martial arts. Just remember to learn how to fall properly and tap out quickly coz you will get thrown and you will get caught in submissions. Just pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back in and learn.... that the best advice I can give you .

    As far a instructors go I would personally recommend the following in no particular order ( have to cover my ass you know!! )

    Andy Ryan - Sbg Northside
    Ray Stears - Portmarnock
    Kieran Foley - Coolmine

    Best of luck again

    Garry

    ^^^^^^


    And here's the fooker who got me hooked on Judo!..


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