Addition to stickies. Manufacturer list.

o1s1n

Just after noticing we don't have a list of different airsoft manufacturers. For a newbie it could be extremely handy. There are quite a lot of different companies out there. Can be a bit daunting at first.I'm going to try and come up with something, stealing quite a bit from this wiki page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._Manufacturers

If anyone has any comments or suggestions, let me know. Oh, and it's going in the retailer sticky..so don't worry about there being ANOTHER sticky added to the pile

Fiach Dubh

Good idea

Don't forget to put "Vega Force Company" on the list. I've had a number of people ask what make my AKs74N is and when I tell them they always say "Never heard of them" Amazing to me as they are a high end AEG company. /shrug

o1s1n

Fiach Dubh wrote:

Good idea

Don't forget to put "Vega Force Company" on the list. I've had a number of people ask what make my AKs74N is and when I tell them they always say "Never heard of them" Amazing to me as they are a high end AEG company. /shrug

Already got it

VFC/GB TECH (Vega Force Company) - Recently began production of Rare and Unique AEGs

Thank you wiki!

Fiach Dubh

Sound

o1s1n

Well that's now up. Another sticky I can give out to newbies for not reading

Fiach Dubh

They're piling up, you may have your hands full

By the way Oisin VFC is located in Taiwan too.

o1s1n

The lpeg section of the wiki was divided into China and Taiwan. I'm not sure why. Think I'll get rid of that completely. I'm sure not adding VFC to the list of budget guns!

Fiach Dubh

True enough. I don't really agree with Wiki's description of VFC either. They have done a couple of unique guns alright such as the Barret light 50 calibre but what VFC is all about is making AEG's that are as close to their realsteel counter parts as possible. That's in looks of course not performance That's what the tagline should be.

o1s1n

Well if you can come up with one I'd be more than glad to add it! Same goes for anyone else who has experience with other manufacturers. That's all more or less a copy and paste from wiki. I've scanned over it but haven't exactly read through it all thoroughly .

Fiach Dubh

Vega Force Company, Taiwan

An up and coming high quality AEG manufacturer who's business model is very high realism AEG's. VFC AEG's sport full metal construction and real wood furniture, real steel trades both on the AEG's and the magazines they manufacture. VFC's products are aimed more towards milsim players shown by their AEG's coming with a mid-cap magazine rather then the standard high-cap of other manufacturers. Prices for VFC AEG's when you factor in the full metal construction is very good value e.g. their AKS74 series costs $440 or $480 for the N version, this would cost you up to $1000 to build with a kit to the same quality. VFC's external quality surpasses Classic Army and Tokyo Marui.

Internals are on par with Classic Army and their AK series mechboxes contain high quality pistons capable of taking 10.2 Volts without failure. The piston is quite heavy and won't in fact run correctly with an 8.4 Volt battery, a 9.6 Volt minimum is needed.

VFC are currently working on an FN SCAR Light, an FNC and a GP30 grenade launcher. Future products are the AK100 series.

How's that Oisin?

o1s1n

Most excellent work. I'll add it now. Airsoft thanks you.

Fiach Dubh

My pleasure

kdouglas

should add that to wikipedia while your at it

CrazyRabbit

o1s1n wrote:

The lpeg section of the wiki was divided into China and Taiwan. I'm not sure why. Think I'll get rid of that completely. I'm sure not adding VFC to the list of budget guns!

Might want to clarify the meaning of lpeg.

o1s1n

CrazyRabbit wrote:

Might want to clarify the meaning of lpeg.

Might want to read through the noob sticky!

LPEG

Some cheaper and lowered powered AEGs are called low powered electric guns (LPEGs) to distinguish them from the original, more expensive and more powerful AEGs even though their mechanical/electrical design and operation is similar and are not to be confused Mini Electrics. Originally they were only of novelty value, often regarded below spring operated guns due to their cheap building materials and extremely poor performance (attributed to velocities under 100 ft/s).

kdouglas

CrazyRabbit wrote:

Might want to clarify the meaning of lpeg.

pfff....newb

ED E

Ehh, dunno but you could add people like Madbull and other people who make upgrade kits and such.

o1s1n

Lethal_Bullet wrote:

Ehh, dunno but you could add people like Madbull and other people who make upgrade kits and such.

I was going to. Decided against it though. It's mainly to point newbies toward so we can avoid "what's the bestest airsoft gun?" threads appearing. You don't want to clutter it with information. I was actually tempted to even remove some of the ones already up there.

ED E

Yeah, it'll be handy, now all we'll have is CR and KD dueling for the quickest draw, who can post the link/tell them to read it faster:D

[--SC(+)PE--]

lol what odds ya giving?

ED E

CR will lose cause he can never have an "incomplete" post.

ambro25

On the topic of LPEGs / MPEGs - I'd be cautious in labelling the likes of JG, DBoys/Boyi, etc. as 'LPEGs' (or even 'MPEGs') since most of their current production easily reaches 300 FPS out-of-the-box.

I'm mindful that LPEG/MPEG has been historically used (by the airsoft community) to distinguish between high-end and clones replicas (the first ones of which used to have pretty low FPS) - witness the fact that noone has ever used the 'HPEGs' acronym.

However, now that most clones routinely outperform TM in the power stakes, that's hardly the case anymore, is it?

Hivemind187

ambro25 wrote:

On the topic of LPEGs / MPEGs - I'd be cautious in labelling the likes of JG, DBoys/Boyi, etc. as 'LPEGs' (or even 'MPEGs') since most of their current production easily reaches 300 FPS out-of-the-box.

I'm mindful that LPEG/MPEG has been historically used (by the airsoft community) to distinguish between high-end and clones replicas (the first ones of which used to have pretty low FPS) - witness the fact that noone has ever used the 'HPEGs' acronym.

However, now that most clones routinely outperform TM in the power stakes, that's hardly the case anymore, is it?

Change the usasg from Low-Powered-Electric-Gun to Low-Priced-Electric-Gun. Ditto MPEG ... although I always though that was an acronymn for movie files, go figure?

ambro25

Hivemind187 wrote:

although I always though that was an acronymn for movie files, go figure?

Moving Picture Expert Group - the file extension was named after the organisation.

CrazyRabbit

o1s1n wrote:

Might want to read through the noob sticky!

LPEG

Some cheaper and lowered powered AEGs are called low powered electric guns (LPEGs) to distinguish them from the original, more expensive and more powerful AEGs even though their mechanical/electrical design and operation is similar and are not to be confused Mini Electrics. Originally they were only of novelty value, often regarded below spring operated guns due to their cheap building materials and extremely poor performance (attributed to velocities under 100 ft/s).

Well I knew what it meant, but new players wouldn't!!!

CrazyRabbit

Lethal_Bullet wrote:

Yeah, it'll be handy, now all we'll have is CR and KD dueling for the quickest draw, who can post the link/tell them to read it faster:D

I always feel uncomfortable pointing people to stickies now. It's kindof, sortof borderline moderating. I'm really paranoid about what I post now...

Mark_Sc

No need to make a new stickey for it but we should have a part about charging times... for eh... the noobs... of course

o1s1n

I didn't use the term lpeg in the sticky. Just in this thread. Out of habit more than anything else. (If it's in that sticky tell me where and It'll be gone)
It's true though, they really are no longer "lpegs" in the true sense of the acronym.

As for the stickies CR..pointing someone toward one if they say "hey, I'm a noob to airsoft, give me information about XYZ" is not moderating. It's being helpful.

Moderation only comes in if you think they've done something wrong. In that case you press the report button. It's directly linked to an alarm in my room you know. All moderators have to have them installed.

Shiva

o1s1n wrote:

It's directly linked to an alarm in my room you know. All moderators have to have them installed.

I'll use it if you link it to a tazer attched to your thigh

o1s1n

Shiva wrote:

I'll use it if you link it to a tazer attched to your thigh

I would imagine if that were the case EVERYONE would be using it. Sorry, not a sacrifice I'm willing to make!

CrazyRabbit

o1s1n wrote:

I didn't use the term lpeg in the sticky. Just in this thread. Out of habit more than anything else. (If it's in that sticky tell me where and It'll be gone)
It's true though, they really are no longer "lpegs" in the true sense of the acronym.

As for the stickies CR..pointing someone toward one if they say "hey, I'm a noob to airsoft, give me information about XYZ" is not moderating. It's being helpful.

Moderation only comes in if you think they've done something wrong. In that case you press the report button. It's directly linked to an alarm in my room you know. All moderators have to have them installed.

But by not reading the stickies and asking a question that is answered in them, that IS doing something wrong....right? hehe...I know what you mean.

And I'm pretty sure there was a reference to lpeg in the sticky, but it's gone now...probably when updating the description of one of the manufacturers.

o1s1n

CrazyRabbit wrote:

But by not reading the stickies and asking a question that is answered in them, that IS doing something wrong....right?

Too right actually.
From now on, anyone asking a question that has already been answered in a sticky gets banned...on order of Crazy Rabbit

liamo333

o1s1n wrote:

Too right actually.
From now on, anyone asking a question that has already been answered in a sticky gets banned...on order of Crazy Rabbit

Are these guns really legal? Anyone know any good brands??:D

o1s1n

liamo333 wrote:

Are these guns really legal? Anyone know any good brands??:D

Awh damn. And Liam was such an integral part of our little community.

Anyone have any problems, take them to Crazy Rabbit

Shiva

Right. And then the cure would be worse than the disease

o1s1n

Shiva wrote:

Right. And then the cure would be worse than the disease

For a second there I thought you might have some sticky related question. Thought we'd have to lose you too.

phew!

CrazyRabbit

Liamo333 : Banned for 24.9 seconds. No reason.

Shiva : Banned for using poor grammar (The word 'Right' is not a complete sentence. However, this ban is rescinded since he put forward the excellent idea of attaching a tazer to Oisin's leg that we could remotely activate.

Mark_Sc: Banned for 11 ns for mispelling the word 'sticky'.

Hivemind187 : Banned for 9 ns for mispelling the work 'acronym'.

ambro25 : Indefinate ban for the geekiest reply in the thread so far (The comment about 'Moving Picture Expert Group - the file extension was named after the organisation.')

: Banned for 2 mins for using the word 'lol' in a post.

Lethal_Bullet : Banned for life for suggesting that kdouglas could possible beat me in any kind of draw.

Why is there an echo in here all of a sudden??

<---bans self for excessive banning.

kdouglas

wh00t! CrazyRabbit is gonezorz! I am 1337, give me all your base! I are dunecat!

etc... etc... ad infinitum

Evolute

o1s1n wrote:

I would imagine if that were the case EVERYONE would be using it. Sorry, not a sacrifice I'm willing to make!

Haha i can see it now seeing oisin walking down the road and then screaming and limping for the next 20 mins haha

CrazyRabbit

Evolute wrote:

Haha i can see it now seeing oisin walking down the road and then screaming and limping for the next 20 mins haha

You don't have to imagine. Just play a skirmish with him.

Oisin's sneaking down the laneway.
Arrrrrrgggghhh!! (as 50 bb's from a 1 joule AEG hit Oisin on the inner thigh.)
Oisin walks away limping for 20 mins.

liamo333

CrazyRabbit wrote:

You don't have to imagine. Just play a skirmish with him.

Oisin's sneaking down the laneway.
Arrrrrrgggghhh!! (as 50 bb's from a 1 joule AEG hit Oisin on the inner thigh.)
Oisin walks away limping for 20 mins.

Hehe. Its funny cos it's true:D

o1s1n

CrazyRabbit wrote:

You don't have to imagine. Just play a skirmish with him.

Oisin's sneaking down the laneway.
Arrrrrrgggghhh!! (as 50 bb's from a 1 joule AEG hit Oisin on the inner thigh.)
Oisin walks away limping for 20 mins.

Option 1: Get bang kill

Option 2: Shoot Oisin pretty much unarmed, unawares on full auto in possibly the sorest spot on the body.


And that would be the main reason I shall never bang kill you ever!