Hip throws - impractical in a self defence

O'Leprosy

situation ? Was doing some hip throws last Saturday. Ok, Judo blokes can use them in the Olympics, and if you were thrown on concrete with one of them, you'd be finished. But are they practically any good. I mean, would it be too dangerous to turn your back on an opponent , even though it's only for an instant ? You very rearly see them used in MMA, as we all know, wrestling takedowns are more common.

I'm not having a go at Judo or Jiu Jitsu here, but maybe unless your very good at them, are they too risky/impractical ?

I think it would be unwise to use any technique that you're not competent with in a self defence situation. That said, when compared to basic wrestling takedowns, hip throws are relatively more difficult to get the hang of initially.

Dragan

From a "self defence" point of view i would simply put it that all you can do is react with what comes first to mind at the time the situtation occurs. If thats a hip throw, then so be it, but the situation you use it in will always dictate it's effectiveness.

As far as i am aware i have used a good hip throw twice, but was aware of neither of them and had to be told/view it on tape afterwards. Both were during pretty big brawls in the club i was working in at the time and both as a resultant of someone coming in from the side/back while i was engaged from the front.

I was obviously lucky on both occasions as the attackers didn't have a clue what they were at.

droc

Judo, and especially hip throws, rule in self defence. At some point most fights end up with both guys holding onto each other, if you can plant the ****er with a hip throw you're halfway to beating him silly. You just gotta be good at them

DROC

dlofnep

I completely disagree.. I've taken down my friends messing around with hip throws all the time.. Infact, they are probably the safest and easiest takedowns to learn. Besides, you're not giving up your back - you're driving them over your hip.. and have control of their body with an underhook or shoulder grip..

I think you should pop by a judo class and see how effective they are.

Gorman

Conclusive proof that judo does not work on the street:

http://www.dogjudo.co.uk/mugged.html

Seriously though you could say the same about any technique “unless your very good at them, are they too risky/impractical ?”

If you can’t hit the technique against a fully resistant opponent then your statement is true. However if you are consistently getting any technique to work at the club against a resisting opponent who knows what’s coming – why shouldn’t it work outside the club?

BTW – I have never been in a real fight so my real life proof is non exsistant

arybvtcw0eolkf

Hip throws, self defence and the street.

Ever watch kids fight/play act?. Mostly you'll see a kid taken down with hip throw's, foot sweeps or reaping/sweeping a leg.

These are movements which come naturally in a clinch, but as adults we don't fight or play act with our mates anylonger and have to re-learn his kind of stuff.

As for turning your back on someone on the street. 99% of aggressors on the street won't be trained in a grappling art and I'd be surprised if the majority of user's of this board wouldn't own them in live situation.

Of course if it was a stand off situation, ie throwing wild 'farmer' hooks and soccer kicks turning your back on an aggressor will put you in huge trouble, but then again I wouldn' expect people here to panic in that situ either.

MMA and hip throw's, I see them all the time.

HammerHeadGym

I worked as a bouncer for many years and didn't get the oppertunity to do a hip throw often, generally due to working in a porch. Anytime I did use it however, it ended the fight, on every level. As was said though, it should be practised to a degree that it becomes instinctual, before it's used on the street.*








*cheque in post, Kevinly

Pride Fighter

I have seen hip throws in MMA, a particular fight does noy spring to mind but it does happen. It can be a useful tool.

takeda shingen

karo parisiyan (right spelling?) uses them quite a bit along with shoulder throw-ippon seoi nage as part of his takedown game. check out youtube.

Niall Keane

A. practice is necessary to develop any technique.
B. who says you'll always be attacked from right on frount of you?