Deep 1/2 hand

AKQJ10

Hand from the jackpot.

Hero 1600
Villain 1000

Hero in the cut off is dealt AA and i make it 10
Villain is on the button makes it 30

His range here is quite wide as he is a good lag player (Buchan) and is just trying to gain control of the pot i feel.

Everyone folds around to me and i flat call?
Flop comes 773 rainbow

I check, he bets 55,

I made it 180.

He calls.

Turn a 2.

I bet 300 and he pushes for 550 more.

Call or fold

NeoSlicerZ

I'd RR him PF.

As you've played it, your hand looks like AK.

I'd call 723 in the pot and 550 more to call , as per your description, I think he'd do this with TT+, I guess you would 4 bet pf with JJ+ usually.

rag2gar

I'd call.

Could well have the same hand!!

Flushdraw

Thats a tough one. I'd always 4bet Eamonn here because then you can narrow his range and get a better understanding of what your beaten.

You cant rule out 87s/76s now or even 22/33. If you 4 bet PF and he calls then i could put him on KK/QQ and make an easy call but now i think theres so much that can beat you. I fold to his push but i also wouldnt have led so strongly on the turn

phantom_lord

getting nearly 3/1 i don't think you can fold, if he ever has kk here you have to call.

ianmc38

4bet preflop especially with those stacks

Ste05

ianmc38 wrote:

4bet preflop especially with those stacks

This is very important, insta-call now. Only a K or Q would make me think twice...

LuckyLloyd

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charlesanto

As played i think i find a fold.
Although i've folded in similar spots to said villian and still have regrets.

I think pot control and getting to show down is the key here.
Maybe RR the flop to 130 and check call the turn, or is that waay to weak ???

bottom feeder

same as what most have said here, re-raise pre flop.
Knowing Eamon i'd say he has suited connectors here [6-7 / 7-8] as he loves these kind of hands....

phantom_lord

Board: 3s 7d 7c 2h
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	44.545%  	41.21% 	03.33% 	           272 	       22.00   { AcAd }
Hand 1: 	55.455%  	52.12% 	03.33% 	           344 	       22.00   { KK+, 77, 33, 87s, 76s }

LuckyLloyd

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Ste05

charlesanto wrote:

I think pot control and getting to show down is the key here.
Maybe RR the flop to 130 and check call the turn, or is that waay to weak ???

LOL, you want pot control with AA in a 3-Bet pot, on a board of 7723r....

you want to get AI ASAP...

charlesanto

Ste05 wrote:

LOL, you want pot control with AA in a 3-Bet pot, on a board of 7723r....

you want to get AI ASAP...

LOL, if you think a good player is gonna get all in for 500 BB's unless he has you beaten !!!

NickyOD

Why did you check raise the flop?

To be honest. I really can't see him bluffing here.

Ste05

NickyOD wrote:

Why did you check raise the flop?

I was wondering that myself, but to CR then lead the turn might be a good way of getting KK, QQ to get AI. Generally I'd almost always lead too, but it would depend on images, etc.

NickyOD

Ste05 wrote:

I was wondering that myself, but to CR then lead the turn might be a good way of getting KK, QQ to get AI. Generally I'd almost always lead too, but it would depend on images, etc.

Exactly, so the only reason to play the hand this way is to inflate the pot early and induce a turn push form a worse hand, which is pretty insane with these stacks IMO especially against a player who knows what he's doing. You shouldn't really bet the turn unless your intention is to instacall him.

Ste05

NickyOD wrote:

Exactly, so the only reason to play the hand this way is to inflate the pot early and induce a turn push form a worse hand, which is pretty insane with these stacks IMO especially against a player who knows what he's doing. You shouldn't really bet the turn unless your intention is to instacall him.

Yep, well I said I insta-call the turn, for those exact reasons, if I CR the flop then lead the turn, it's done with the intention of snap calling now, hence my post above, I'm not sure if the OP had this line of thinking, but I really don't see how it's possible to fold here now as played.

I however, don't think it's insane, this is almost the perfect flop for a 3-Bet hand, and also as said above, a 4-Bet PF is necessary to shallow out the hand slightly, but if I didn't 4-Bet PF it'd be because I'd have a decent read on the Villain's range. The OP says he didn't and therefore that is the biggest mistake that led to losing his stack, as I presume happened and hence this post.

cooker3

Giving the stats phantom posted then it is an easy call.

NickyOD

cooker3 wrote:

Giving the stats phantom posted then it is an easy call.

I every hand that includes a 7 should be in there. 7-2 right up to A7. Also there is one, and only one hand in the range that you beat and that's Kings.

Goodluck2me

i think the villains range def includes hands more like TT+ imo esp against mark.

phantom_lord

for 5 buyins I doubt he has less than kk.

maybe qq.

phantom_lord

NickyOD wrote:

I every hand that includes a 7 should be in there. 7-2 right up to A7. Also there is one, and only one hand in the range that you beat and that's Kings.

just cause there's two 7s on the flop?? he 3bet pf, 67s/78s seem reasonable to me the other 7s don't.

NickyOD

phantom_lord wrote:

for 5 buyins I doubt he has less than kk.

Yeah I'd have to agree with that and it's important to know wether or not you should rule those hands out because if you incliude them it increases you win % by 20%!!!!!!!!!!!


Board: 7c 7d 3h 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 15.661% 14.75% 00.91% 2142 132.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 84.339% 83.43% 00.91% 12114 132.00 { KK+, 77, 33-22, A7s, K7s, Q7s, J7s, T7s, 97s, 87s, 72o+ }

phantom_lord

22 beats him too, might as well stick that in as well.

NickyOD

phantom_lord wrote:

just cause there's two 7s on the flop?? he 3bet pf, 67s/78s seem reasonable to me the other 7s don't.

On the button I think his range ccould be any 2, especially late in the night against a player who probably doesn't want to tangle with him. I know it's WAY more likely to be a more co-ordinated hand, I'm just saying any 7 shouldn't really be rules out completely. He could very easily be getting jiggy with the hammer.

ianmc38

For people who dont know Buchan, this hand has been absolutely butchered. It is almost certian Eamonn has a 7, a boat or quads here. He constantly 3bets and raises with 67s type hands. You have to call now I think but you should never have gotten there in the 1st place.

NickyOD

ianmc38 wrote:

You have to call now I think but you should never have gotten there in the 1st place.

Why call if you're almost certainly drawing to 2 outs?

ianmc38

NickyOD wrote:

Why call if you're almost certainly drawing to 2 outs?

His range will include an overpair sometimes - AA/KK/QQ. It's pretty marginal either way equity wise i think.

jbravado

Ok so hes definitly not bluffing-but there is a SLIM chance he has kk and thinks its good.
Buchan wont be putting in this much with qq and he should know that its unlikely your folding at this stage-he has 76 78 57 even 7 10 sooty is feasible.
He shares a love of sooty gapers which I respect....
Your beat.....dont like the way you played this mark........

LuckyLloyd

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Hectorjelly

Ste05 wrote:

LOL, you want pot control with AA in a 3-Bet pot, on a board of 7723r....

you want to get AI ASAP...

You most certainly dont.

theres a very simple difference between this 3 bet pot and most of them. Usually in a three bet pot you have put in maybe 1/4 or more of your stack. Here you have put in less than a 25th.

Ste05

Hectorjelly wrote:

You most certainly dont.

theres a very simple difference between this 3 bet pot and most of them. Usually in a three bet pot you have put in maybe 1/4 or more of your stack. Here you have put in less than a 25th.

True, and as I said above that is why a 4-Bet PF is needed to shallow out the hand. But as played it's a call now really (the only reason I'd ever CR the flop and lead the turn would be to get AI now). And 7723 is almost the perfect board, I see now however that the Villain likes to play S/C's etc. like this, and thus a different line should have been taken.

insafehands

Sorry for OT:

AKQJ10 - were you the guy that busted me in the Jackpot last night?

Set of 6's vs. OESD and you hit the K on the river?

AKQJ10

yeh, unlucky mate.

insafehands

AKQJ10 wrote:

yeh, unlucky mate.

It's cool man, nh.

Was my first time there and bought in with 50e while I was waiting for someone so didn't expect to do much. Think when I checked out your stack you were c.400, could be wrong, but judging from this thread turned out to be a fruitful night for ya.

Mr.Plough

double post

shoutman

What was the result of this hand?

AKQJ10

eamon folded when i made it 180 on the flop. he had 56 for a middler. i just wondered would it have been a call if it played out different

ditpoker

AKQJ10 wrote:

eamon folded when i made it 180 on the flop. he had 56 for a middler. i just wondered would it have been a call if it played out different

... you're an idiot!

Goodluck2me

ditpoker wrote:

... you're an idiot!

this isnt the same guy who checked 3 streets with QQ? now where`s that kettle...