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How to play TT

  • 28-06-2007 11:50am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭


    In a FO Tourney, blinds 200/400 I have 5500 left in the cutoff position. One limper, guy to my right raises to 1200, he has about the same as me. He is decent enough player, has been relatively active but only aggressive when he has some sort of hand. I figure he has AK/AQ/AJ with AK the less likely. There's a possibility of pocket pair such as 77/88/99 as well

    I look down at TT, so what do I do? I've been fairly tight so far and only shown down decent cards.

    a) Fold
    b) Call and re-evaluate at the flop
    c) Raise to 3400 or so
    d) Push all-in
    e) None of the above

    Please pick and explain why


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭WH BONNEY


    How do you rule JJ, QQ, KK & AA out his range. With one limper already & his raise to 1200 I would be just as likely to put him on a big pair. Call and reassess after the flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭modmuffin


    What is the limper like? has he been limping a lot? is he likely to limp a big hand from EP?
    You cant remove AA, KK, QQ, JJ out of his range here.
    If he's been relatively active then he might be raising A10, A9, KQ aswell.
    How big has his previous raises been in comparison to this one?

    Theres 2k in the pot & theres a lot of flops your not gonna like, Id Push.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    I'd shove against an aggressive opponent if you think they have a big hand then obviously fold but normally I think you have to take them on here. You need to start pushing soon and your going to do well to pick up better then TT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Totz


    Yea I agree.. its nearly a 1/4 of your stack to see a flop that you prob wont like. Push or Fold... Id say push with tens alrite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    I push,if u call u are more then likely not gonna like the flop,if i decide to play this hand im pushing...if i want to wait for a better spot i fold obviously, but i never call 1200 out of a 5500 stack,never.....u leave urself with 4300, even if the blinds fold and the EP limper folds thats still 3400 in the pot.... ur not gonna want to leave that behind u after the flop.

    as it stands theres over 2k in the pot now, thats almost half ur stack...i push now and try to get it uncontested as its still a decent amount more for the raiser to call, or at least if one of them calls u will probably b going heads up and will give urself the best chance possible...hope it makes sense! im not gonna read back over it!:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    Push.

    You are more than likely not going to like the flop ( to repeat what has been said)

    The pot is sizeable in relation to your stack.
    So try and win it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭WH BONNEY


    I dont believe pushing is the best option here. I would most likely call and if not I fold.

    I agree with the idea that we are unlikely to see too my flops that we like but with the action so far (i) at best we are against a smaller pair (unlikely due to his raise amount) (ii) off to the races (Probable) or (iii) in a world of pain against an over pair (a definite possibility).

    I would gladly take a race but with the action so far I dont believe your read can be so specific to rule out the over pairs. If we fold to a flop bet we still have 10 bb's and I would be comfortable backing myself to create another situation to double up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭stevire


    dingle wrote:
    only aggressive when he has some sort of hand. I figure he has AK/AQ/AJ with AK the less likely. There's a possibility of pocket pair such as 77/88/99 as well

    If he's only aggressive when he has a hand then why would you rule out the possibilty of bigger pairs? Or AK? Sounds like your trying to convince yourself that you have him dominated!!
    dingle wrote:
    a) Fold
    b) Call and re-evaluate at the flop
    c) Raise to 3400 or so
    d) Push all-in
    e) None of the above

    Please pick and explain why

    Call is not the greatest option, if you put him on high connectors what do you do when royalty hits the flop? If you put him on a middle pocket pair what do you do if middle cards come? Don't call to try and catch your ten, 1 in 7 chance of that happening and you see a lot of beginners lose their chips by calling a raise with a middle/low pocket pair then not knowing what to do if there's over cards.

    C and D are pretty much the same, if your gonna make a substancial raise why leave so little behind?

    I think A and D are the only options imo here. If it was me, i'd push.. It's still quite early and if he's a decent player he might'nt want to go racing if he has high connectors in the early stages of the tournament.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I push here, and usually go out with my 1010.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭dingle


    Thanks for the replies folks. I've gone out of the last three tourneys I played with TT, just wanted to get a feel for how other people would approach playing this hand.

    I was fairly sure he hadn't JJ-AA because of the bet size, how he had played big pairs previously and his demenour. As it turned out he had AQ.

    I chose option (c) as I wanted a race at this point and didn't want to scare him away. In future I think I will push in these situations. Thanks for the advice


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    :eek: how can u simply re raise with that stack??? and i sincerely hope the guy with AQ didnt simply call ur re raise??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    TT is the nuts when you've 15 bbs. Shoveski


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭C4Queen


    The heading made me smile....Cos TT is my dog!!

    Her name is Tullamore Tilt ;-).... TT! And i played TT with a fotball, just 5 minutes ago out in garden ;-)

    Today is one of those days when a smile is needed so thanks!
    And sorry for being "notveryseriousatallinaseriousaskedquestionthread",, just oen of those wacko days.

    anna panna


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭Hoki


    That hand wasnt from the westwood on wednesday night by any chance?


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