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dacman

I went down to my local casino the other night. The smallest no limit game was 5/10 so after paying the taxi fair there I decided I was going to play. So I sat down with 500 dollars. Then the following hands came up.

1. After playing no hands for 2 orbits I pick up AhQh from the button. 5 limpers so I make it 60. BB calls and its then folded around to the guy in middle position who in goes mad when someone raises. He previously had lost a big pot. He then angrily slams in 380 dollars to say he is all in. At this point I’m convinced I’m ahead so I shove to get a heads up. Then he goes “Agh fu*k it nice hand” and throws his cards into the muck as if he didn’t want to play the hand. I then proceeded to turn over AhQh( not a good idea I know) and he makes a dive for his cards. Dealer says the hand is mucked and I win the pot. Floor is called and the player goes ballistic saying he didn’t muck his cards. After much deliberation the floor decides that the hand can be played out and put it down to a mistake by the player. I agree as to not offend the guy but later I think I should have said rules are rules and his hand is dead. Would you usually call this hand dead if they were in this spot??

2. I pick up AsAc on the button and again after 5 limpers I make it 70.BB calls along with one other player. Flop comes Ah 2c 3c. BB leads for 150 which is called by the other player. What is the best move??

3. I have 99 in the big blind. I check after 4 callers. flop is A K 9. I lead for 50 which is called by two players. Turn is a J. I bet 75 which is raised to 150 and the guy in last position shoves all in for about 1k. I have him covered by about 300 Would you call??

Thanks

buck65

ok here's a novice players 2 cents:

First situation I would insist his cards were dead, if they are mucked they are mucked , the dealer should have been stronger here.

"b-With the trip aces I would reraise back , surely you are ahead and up against 2 pair here?

c- I would fold my trip nines, that big raises alarms me a bit maybe you are outgunned here by a pair of Aces or Ks.

(guys please feel free to critique my response, I'm new enough to the game)

DEmeant0r

1. rules are rules, if it's in the muck pile then its mucked

2. reraise to 350/400

3. borderline call, would say you're up against 2 pair here

Buck65, you're never going to be up against a set of Kings or Aces here.

dacman

Confident that the BB would lead again would calling hand 2 and raising a non club turn be a better way to extract value or is this a raise every time.

In hand 3 the guy that pushed would never have limped with a big pair

ianmc38

Hand 1: I'd insist the hand was dead tough shít.

Hand 2: Im assuming effective stacks of 500. Shove and its not close. The lead out their is nearly always a draw.

Hand 3: Horrible spot. I think this one is read dependant.

dacman

ianmc38 wrote:

Hand 2: Im assuming effective stacks of 500. Shove and its not close. The lead out their is nearly always a draw QUOTE]

Hand 2 I'm playing abt 900 and im covered by both other players

El Stuntman

hand 3 is such a nasty spot :eek:

I'd discount AA, KK straight away (unless villain was Harold lol)

QT seems hugely unlikely therefore the only logical hand that beats you is JJ, would JJ have stuck around to the turn given the flop texture?

I vote 2 pair - I call and clench

gosplan

dacman wrote:

I went down to my local casino the other night. The smallest no limit game was 5/10 so after paying the taxi fair there I decided I was going to play. So I sat down with 500 dollars. Then the following hands came up.

1. After playing no hands for 2 orbits I pick up AhQh from the button. 5 limpers so I make it 60. BB calls and its then folded around to the guy in middle position who in goes mad when someone raises. He previously had lost a big pot. He then angrily slams in 380 dollars to say he is all in. At this point I’m convinced I’m ahead so I shove to get a heads up. Then he goes “Agh fu*k it nice hand” and throws his cards into the muck as if he didn’t want to play the hand. I then proceeded to turn over AhQh( not a good idea I know) and he makes a dive for his cards. Dealer says the hand is mucked and I win the pot. Floor is called and the player goes ballistic saying he didn’t muck his cards. After much deliberation the floor decides that the hand can be played out and put it down to a mistake by the player. I agree as to not offend the guy but later I think I should have said rules are rules and his hand is dead. Would you usually call this hand dead if they were in this spot??

2. I pick up AsAc on the button and again after 5 limpers I make it 70.BB calls along with one other player. Flop comes Ah 2c 3c. BB leads for 150 which is called by the other player. What is the best move??

3. I have 99 in the big blind. I check after 4 callers. flop is A K 9. I lead for 50 which is called by two players. Turn is a J. I bet 75 which is raised to 150 and the guy in last position shoves all in for about 1k. I have him covered by about 300 Would you call??

Thanks

The rules are on your side but if the floor lets him away with it then I'd probably bow to them. You could kick up an equally sized fuss but I'm not sure if that's your thing.

Reraise, they've got a good ace or trips which you have dead...or clubs. Reraise to about 500 and all in on non club turn.

Close call. I'd say two pair, can't see 10 Q calling that flop or AA/KK giving a free flop.

CaptainNemo

dacman wrote:

Would you usually call this hand dead if they were in this spot??

The hand is dead and I'm amazed the floor ruled otherwise. The guy folded, plain and simple. I was softer on that kind of thing when I started out playing live but now I wouldn't give an inch.

dacman wrote:

2. I pick up AsAc on the button and again after 5 limpers I make it 70.BB calls along with one other player. Flop comes Ah 2c 3c. BB leads for 150 which is called by the other player. What is the best move??

Hard to know without knowing relative stack sizes. However I'd say you absolutely have to raise here.

dacman wrote:

3. I have 99 in the big blind. I check after 4 callers. flop is A K 9. I lead for 50 which is called by two players. Turn is a J. I bet 75 which is raised to 150 and the guy in last position shoves all in for about 1k. I have him covered by about 300 Would you call??

I don't really like this spot. Q10, a hand a lot of people limp with, has just made a straight. I don't see any reason to risk almost your whole stack on bottom set here. You may be ahead and it's a tough laydown but if I'm going to play for my entire stack I'd like to be in a better spot.

El Stuntman

CaptainNemo wrote:

I don't really like this spot. Q10, a hand a lot of people limp with, has just made a straight. I don't see any reason to risk almost your whole stack on bottom set here. You may be ahead and it's a tough laydown but if I'm going to play for my entire stack I'd like to be in a better spot.

does QT call for 50 on this flop with a gutshot?

I know a few sickos who would but barring any reads (which dacman hasn't provided), I'd have to say highly unlikely...

cardshark202

Im shipping hand three.

Hand 2 I would raise to 570

spectre

Hand 2: a pot sized bet puts you pretty much all in so shove

Hand 3: all in

dacman

In hand 3 the villain is very loose but never slow plays. raises 50% of hands preflop. is capable of bluffing but he shoved his chips into this pot seeming very confident. Dont forget that the 75 bet on the turn was raised to 150 and then raised to 1100

Tar.Aldarion

1) A fold is a fold.
2) Big Reraise
3) Awww eeeen.

El Stuntman

dacman wrote:

In hand 3 the villain is very loose but never slow plays. raises 50% of hands preflop. is capable of bluffing but he shoved his chips into this pot seeming very confident. Dont forget that the 75 bet on the turn was raised to 150 and then raised to 1100

which then means he doesn't have AA, KK or JJ

and all we worry about is QT, given his looseness (which you didn't mention before) and his apparent confidence, this now appears more likely

meh, I still call

BigCityBanker

Hand 1 - I toss the table over and go nuts.

I wouldnt be in the casino for hands 2 and 3 but if i was...

Hand 2 - You have to make it c.550 - 600. Obv you call a push and if you are just called and the club hits on the turn I think its an easy call if somebody pushes (im willing to listen to maths here to tell me im wrong) cos you have a redraw to nut clubs along with asking the board to pair or quad up for you. I think raising here makes the rest of the hand easier to play.

Hand 3 - I dont like it. You have bet 75 into a pot of 200 on the turn. A guy has shoved after a minraise. I dont think a call is bad, but i dont think a fold is bad. I think you really need to be sitting at the table for this one. Its marginal either way.

dacman

In hand 3 I’m looking at player 2 as the main reason why a fold was the best option here. I'm calling for the board to pair and its very likely that my outs are shortened by his holding.

dacman

Results

Hand 1. was played out. he had 7c 5c. i held up
Hand 2. i called the flop turn was a 2 checked to me i bet 300 and was re raised all in by the third guy who had 33. i called and i held up
Hand 3. after long deliberation i passed. he had to have Q 10 which he did. He was called by the 150 re-raiser who had K J.the 150 re-raise made my mind up on this one. Suprised most people said push here.

Tar.Aldarion

Didn't realise he was that bad. :P

BigCityBanker

dacman wrote:

Hand 2. i called the flop turn was a 2 checked to me i bet 300 and was re raised all in by the third guy who had 33. i called and i held up

I really think you need to be raising this flop.

wd.

Hectorjelly

I hate knowing the results already, but hand 3 is a fold. One of them will nearly always have a straight. It doesnt matter that it was just a gotshot. It was only 50, or 5 blinds on the flop.

dacman

BigCityBanker wrote:

I really think you need to be raising this flop.

wd.

Yeah definetly this was a mistake as i would have got both tanks on the flop i feel.

dacman

Hectorjelly wrote:

I hate knowing the results already, but hand 3 is a fold. One of them will nearly always have a straight. It doesnt matter that it was just a gotshot. It was only 50, or 5 blinds on the flop.

yeah in most of the live games ive played people fish gut shots. Online a player usually folds this.