Woa

peeko

Villain is a bit of a maniac(60/20), but have not seen him losing any big hands.

GAME #585783298: Texas Hold'em NL $0.50/$1.00 2007-06-27 03:13:26
Table Quispamsis
Seat 1: peeko ($161.10 in chips)
Seat 3: cortex101 ($123.54 in chips)
Seat 5: PlayMoney416 ($89.47 in chips)
Seat 6: BiriNighTonight ($93.50 in chips)
Seat 8: Buffed ($71.11 in chips)
Seat 10: Driven2This ($105.42 in chips) DEALER
peeko: Post SB $0.50
cortex101: Post BB $1.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to peeko [Jc 9d]
PlayMoney416: Fold
BiriNighTonight: Fold
Buffed: Call $1.00
Driven2This: Fold
peeko: Call $0.50
cortex101: Check
*** FLOP *** [3c 8s 10c]
peeko: Check
cortex101: Bet $3.00
Buffed: Fold
peeko: Call $3.00
*** TURN *** [Qd]
peeko: Check
cortex101: Bet $4.00
peeko: Raise $8.00
cortex101: Call $4.00
*** RIVER *** [Kd]
peeko: Bet $18.00
cortex101: Allin $111.54
peeko:

I hardly ever min raise, but thought this a good spot against this villain. By the river I really couldn't see what he could beat me with that he would of raised flop and called min raised turn.

peeko

Fold/Call?

cooker3

The min raise is horrible, after it there is 25 in the pot and he has about 110 behind him, how exactly do you plan to get his stack?
As played call, he has some 2 pair combination a good bit I'd imagine along with the higher straight.

Captain Tom

raise more on the turn,especially given read on villian. easy call on the river. he'll be bluffing busted club draw/value betting a worse hand most of the time.

Lorax

Id put him on Q10s, wouldnt have minraised on the river and probably would have shoved a little more on the turn.

Would ppl say AJ is unlikely with his flop/turn action?

RedJoker

Lorax wrote:

Would ppl say AJ is unlikely with his flop/turn action?

No not necessarily, I'd say his preflop action makes it more unlikely he has aj tbh. You'd expect a 60/20 to raise that preflop with only 1 limper and SB completing.

His range is wide open for taking a stab on the flop given our read and since he's picked up a double belly buster on the turn his bet and call of the min raise (awful btw) are completely standard.

I call here, there's no way I'm ever throwing away the second nuts against a 60/20 (how many hands?).

ianmc38

Wow that minraise is unbelievably bad. I would call here.

peeko

f**k, I played it very badly.

What should I have made the turn bet, I didnt want to scare him away, I guess thats why I made my pussy raise on the turn. I think if I made the turn raise anymore he would of folded there and then. Greed got the best of me.

I let the timer run down to the end before I could figure out what to do. He showed 53o and left the table.

I seriously never like to min raise, and I bearly ever check raise people, all though it's something I've been looking to incorporate into my game. Can anyone give me advise as to why not min raise (cooker made good point about how am I going to get his entire stack in), and when to check raise?

appreciate the replies

peeko the donk

ianmc38

i occasionally minraise the river for value or as a bluff. in your hand you want to get as much as possible in the pot. minraising will rarely accomplish that.

peeko

It's amazing how you can play well for such a long period of time, and then blow up in the space of 10 minutes. cheers for the words Ian.

NickyOD

Wow, that's some fold peeko. what were you thinking?

I suggest you watch this video. It always makes me feel better.

peeko

NickyOD wrote:

Wow, that's some fold peeko. what were you thinking?

I suggest you watch this video. It always makes me feel better.

lol cheers Nicky!

I know I'm a muppet!

Some day I'll be like you cool kids.

valor

this is such a horrible fold

eoghan104

AM I missing something here? The only hand that beat you is AJ? There is no way he can have this hand here after the action. If he does shrug it off and move on but never ever fold unless he shows you AJ first!

luckylucky

Jeez, I almost feel like spewing myself over this. It's as if you know you played the hand bad on the turn and now because of that you're in morbid fear that you have left the guy in cheap with the one hand that can beat you, it's like your punishing yourself by folding. You simply can't fold this, especially against a maniac. Man I feel queasy after this thread :eek:

Tar.Aldarion

Oh Peeko. *pats on shoulder*

Blip

Cant see him holding AJ here and not raising PF in the BB. The min raise is bad, but not calling is terrible, after he handed you his stack, ....however Nicky's right that video does make you feel better

Mr.Plough

60/20 and you folded :eek: :eek: :eek:

i bet you went on uber monkey tilt after he showed and legged it.

CaptainNemo

He could have had AJ of clubs, that's basically the only way he could be beating you on the river and have the hand make any sense at all. Even then it wouldn't make much sense. I can't believe you folded!

NickyOD

Does the thread really need anyone else repeating what's already been said to make peeko feel bad? :rolleyes:

Mr.Plough

3 more should do it i reckon


Seriously though, You thought you had a read and you followed it. Its good to trust your instincts. Don't let the odd misread blow away your confidence.

peeko

sorry folks! I mis-edited the original post trying to neaten up the gjp hh!

Flop:

*** FLOP *** [D3 S8 C10]

*** FLOP *** [3d 8s 10c]

/smacks his head...

luckylucky

peeko wrote:

sorry folks! I mis-edited the original post trying to neaten up the gjp hh!

Flop:

*** FLOP *** [D3 S8 C10]

*** FLOP *** [3d 8s 10c]

/smacks his head...

Ah so there was a possible flush on the river, this correct? If so it makes the fold more understandable. It's easy to say after the event since we know it was a bluff from the maniac but I'm not even sure if I'd still fold.

Macspower

Hi Peeko,

I really don't lke much about this hand to be honest..

I lead the flop.... played as is I make the turn a much larger bet (as Ian says your looking to get his stack in the middle)..

And on the river he goes and does what you were looking to achieve and you fold.....

Really don't like this one..........

Mac

peeko

Macspower wrote:

Hi Peeko,

I really don't lke much about this hand to be honest..

I lead the flop.... played as is I make the turn a much larger bet (as Ian says your looking to get his stack in the middle)..

And on the river he goes and does what you were looking to achieve and you fold.....

Really don't like this one..........

Mac

Hey Mac!
Don't like the min raise at all, and deffo should of called the river, but I made a small mistake with the HH! There was a diamond on the flop, making the river complete a possible flush... I still don't like the way the hand played. We live and learn.