Westland Row gate removal...

Why?

I don't really mind walking the extra distance, it's just that it seems out of the way and unnecessary.

Stargal

Isn't the new Pearse St. one opening soon?

There was a big debate about this a while ago. I'll get the link now.

Edit: Here. It's been archived already, even though it's only from March.

Nietzschean

its open, been open for a while... the westland row gate has been falling apart, and the whole route to it was pretty shabby looking, i think the new setup looks alot better.... functionality wise its all the one really, not much more of a walk...

Laika wrote:

Isn't the new Pearse St. one opening soon?

There was a big debate about this a while ago. I'll get the link now.

Edit: Here. It's been archived already, even though it's only from March.

It was planned ages ago but it's now been put in place, and the old one is closed. Most people here probably won't have noticed since everyone's finished exams and stuff now.

Nietzschean

well i do, since well i'm in and out of there every day still

Yep, I don't like it being closed as it's a round-a-bout way of exiting Trinity now instead of directly onto Westland Row. But apart from that, it'll mean that the middle traffic lights at Westland Row (just at the old exit) will be hopefully removed since they won't be needed now.

ApeXaviour

Myth wrote:

it'll mean that the middle traffic lights at Westland Row (just at the old exit) will be hopefully removed

Why hopefully? Do you hate them so much? Its vestigial presence will continue to please me for years to come, hopefully.

ApeXaviour

ApeXaviour wrote:

Why hopefully? Do you hate them so much? Its vestigial presence will continue to please me for years to come, hopefully.

Was an ickle bit boozed up while writing, but I fail to see the point of having traffic lights there if you will now be going to each of the far sides of Westland Row.

xeduCat

I suspect they may be used by people other than Trinity students (there being a busy train station and a church there). Yes of course people could walk to either junction (Pearse St/Westland or Lincoln Place/Westland) but if people did that you could take away half the lights in the city...

Nietzschean

Myth wrote:

Was an ickle bit boozed up while writing, but I fail to see the point of having traffic lights there if you will now be going to each of the far sides of Westland Row.

pearse station, spar, centra, etc... ammount of pedestrian's exiting pearse together in the morning makes sence to have lights there, though i'm not sure why they arn't right outside the entrance instead of up a bit? i've seen pedestrian lights closer to a junction than that?

Nietzschean

Nietzschean wrote:

pearse station, spar, centra, etc... ammount of pedestrian's exiting pearse together in the morning makes sence to have lights there, though i'm not sure why they arn't right outside the entrance instead of up a bit? i've seen pedestrian lights closer to a junction than that?

Yes, but the pedestrians will be walking to the sides of Trinity at any rate.

uber

The big problem with the new Entrance at the Naughton Institute is that the traffic lights are nowhere near it, and just as you think it's safe to cross cars come around from all sides

Pirbright

The decision to close Westland Row gate will be reviewed in a year's time and that was after the Senior Lecturer intervened to have it kept open.

Pirbright

Pirbright wrote:

The decision to close Westland Row gate will be reviewed in a year's time and that was after the Senior Lecturer intervened to have it kept open.

Course, otherwise he'd be late for his DART

godtabh

The gates on to Pearse St arent as safe as the other ones. You will get a lot of people at peak times leaving on to a much smaller footpath than the other gate.

Factor in a few piss heads the potential for an accident is much more likely.

Bring back the other gate!

kearnsr

kearnsr wrote:

The gates on to Pearse St arent as safe as the other ones. You will get a lot of people at peak times leaving on to a much smaller footpath than the other gate.

Factor in a few piss heads the potential for an accident is much more likely.

Bring back the other gate!

Just noticed that today, it's a bit annoying alright.

Nietzschean

i assume once the barriers all come down there will be a wider foothpath area there....

Marathon Man

There should be a swipe card access system to keep non Trinity staff and students out of our Utopia.

godtabh

Nietzschean wrote:

i assume once the barriers all come down there will be a wider foothpath area there....

I would say that will be replaced by fencing or a wall

Nietzschean

kearnsr wrote:

I would say that will be replaced by fencing or a wall

on the left as you come out will be a public gallery iirc, so no big fence/wall, whole point of these new exists is to look more open to pearse street or something, the walls that will be there i think are just the exterior building walls which are already in place but i could be wrong...

godtabh

Nietzschean wrote:

on the left as you come out will be a public gallery iirc, so no big fence/wall, whole point of these new exists is to look more open to pearse street or something, the walls that will be there i think are just the exterior building walls which are already in place but i could be wrong...

I was of the undestanding that a wall/fence would go from the exsiting gate on Pearce St to the new entrance. Not sure behond that point

M450

I think its pretty annoying to have to walk a roundabout way to get to pearse station now!! i was headin 2 the pav last night n my card wouldnt work on the new entrance gate! we had to walk around to the big entrance on nassau st. :mad:

Nietzschean

try it on the inside of the gate instead of the outside...

M450

Ah yeah... thats what we used to hav to do with the westland row gate n all!! should hav figured that one out...

godtabh

M450 wrote:

I think its pretty annoying to have to walk a roundabout way to get to pearse station now!! i was headin 2 the pav last night n my card wouldnt work on the new entrance gate! we had to walk around to the big entrance on nassau st. :mad:

Would you just not have gone to the other entrance at the end of westland row?

King.Penguin

Yeah, sometimes you have to swipe on the inside to get the bloody things to open. More confusingly, the gate on pearse street opposite o'neills pup will only let me swipe in with a staff card and swipe out with a student card (no space to put your hand through either). this gate is easily the most annoying and eccentric general access gate on campus. what i really want is a key for the door beside the vehicle entrance.

ApeXaviour

I agree that the other Pearse st gate that king.penguin is talking about is by far the most finicky and eccentric. Though during regular hours I can get both in and out with my student card. It simply takes a few minutes of trying to swipe all different ways you can. What usually works for me is to slowly swipe only halfway, just hold the card still for a few seconds in the middle of the reader.

King.Penguin

Yeah, i usually spend about a minute swiping slowly, the quickly, then turning my card the other way around than trying again. It can be very frustrating.

europerson

King.Penguin wrote:

Yeah, sometimes you have to swipe on the inside to get the bloody things to open. More confusingly, the gate on pearse street opposite o'neills pup will only let me swipe in with a staff card and swipe out with a student card (no space to put your hand through either). this gate is easily the most annoying and eccentric general access gate on campus.

I'm a lowly undergrad, and that gate works for me all the time, except early in the morning (six or seven o'clock), when it seems never to like my card at all. Perhaps that's just coincidence.

what i really want is a key for the door beside the vehicle entrance.

If you have a staff card, you can easily get one. See here.

Boston

It's not that hugely easy but it is straight forward, you have to have solid reason for needing to access campus out of hours, but most staff would have that.

As for the wipe card thing, its asleep is all. the thing powers down and you just have to wake it up.

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

It's slightly annoying for me to get to Centra or whatever from the Computer Science lab, because of its location, the old Westland Row gate was far quicker...but the location is so close anyway that the round about route is hardly long, and it would be a bit..slobbish to complain about having to walk that kind of distance...

...however on a slightly related note...are they going to do something about landscaping those little mud patches between the Lloyd institute and the O'Reilly Building in front of the new gym...there's no drainage and they're turning into muddy ponds...almost as unsightly as the old construction site...also the route's fine for anyone coming from the west of the college, but people coming out of the Hamilton are invariably going to take a shortcut across those patches, and if there's grass or whatever it will get worn down into a path and look very ugly..it's a pet peeve of mine..the people who design those sorts of things should take into account that people will in general take the shortest route possible...