Qualifier Draw

cruiserweight

So it is

Limerick v Louth
Fermanagh v Wexford/Laois
Leitrim v Donegal
Mayo v Cavan
Down v Meath
Roscommon v Kildare
Westmeath v Longford
Armagh v Derry

One re-match and no really killer ties. I suppose Armagh v Derry is the tie of the round.

blackbelt

Well given that the Louth 5 might miss the qualifiers,on paper that would have been the tie of the qualifiers.

Poor Cavan,Mayo will most likely walk that match which will show us nothing in how they have recovered from the Galway debacle.

Westmeath will have revenge on their minds and will take delight in knocking Longford out of Championship.That would give them the last and loudest laugh.

Meath and Down is interesting,I pick Meath.Kildare and Roscommon is interesting in that this draw has taken place in recent championships.Kildare do not perform in the qualifiers so dont be surprised if the rossies win.

DOnegal will kill Leitrim unfortunately although if they didn'T I'd laugh til xmasif Leitrim dumped them out after so much hype.

Redsoxfan

Donegal won't kill anybody.

Kojak

I suppose the "tie of the round" will be the meeting of Armagh and Derry. It wont be a classic and could descend into a gruelling war situation, which would suit Armagh down to the ground.

Mayo have gotten an easier tie that what it would appear on paper. Cavan have been hit with some of their star players leaving the panel to travel to the US for the Summer (i.e. Seanie Johnston)

I also dont think that Dongeal will "kill" Leitrim. If Leitrim battle like they did today against Galway, then they will have a fighting chance. It remains to be seen how much damage that defeat to Tyrone will have done to Donegal. I would still expect them to win, but not by a huge margain.

blackbelt

Suppose,from looking at the score,one could say Galway got away with it but i have seen nothing at all.Maybe Galway are not as good as they are making themselves out to be but as i said time and time again,you can only beat whose put in front of u.

Pity bout Louth,that match would be a thriller if those 5 players are there.Cant see Louth coming out with a victory now.

Haven't a Clue

Donegal'll find it pretty tough, as nearly all teams do, in Carrick on Shannon. I'd still expect them to win by about 5.

I can't see any real shocks in this round, unless you'd consider a Louth win a shock.

blackbelt

I would consider Louth winning a shock now that its apparent their top 5 sharpshooters are gone.

Fermanagh vs Laois would be nice to see

Donegal to win by 6 points in my opinion but probably wont break away until the last 15mins.

mise_me_fein

blackbelt wrote:

I would consider Louth winning a shock now that its apparent their top 5 sharpshooters are gone.

Their top 5 sharpshooters..........LOL, JP Rooney is a great man for goals but three of the others didn't even start.

Louth are still favourites to win. I would have given Limerick a far better chance say 2 or 3 years ago.

cournioni

Good to see Cavan getting Mayo, hopefully they'll give us a good trouncing to teach our county board a lesson. Starting the club championship at the end of July is ridiculous!

The Rooster

Limerick v Louth - they'll want it more
Fermanagh v Wexford/Laois - very hard to beat up there
Leitrim v Donegal - by 3 points or less
Mayo v Cavan - hard to imagine Cavan putting in a performance
Down v Meath - Newry will keep it close, but Meath should be too good
Roscommon v Kildare - lillies not as bad as the sheepstealers
Westmeath v Longford - the slashers are the better team and will prove it again
Armagh v Derry - by at least 6 points

blackbelt

Limerick vs Louth = Limerick by 4,Louth too disrupted by departures of some players

Fermanagh vs Wexford/Laois=If Wexford,I go for Fermanagh win but if Laois I'd say Laois by three.Fermanagh showing that they are recovering but Laois have the players to pull through by one or two.

Leitrim vs Donegal= Donegal by 6.They should be up by two until the last 15 where Donegals fitness and physical advantage will help them pull away.

Mayo vs Cavan= No disrespect but a walkover on paper.Mayo will win by 7 or 8 points.Cavan are not fit enough either.Can't have players going down with cramp in May.

Down vs Meath= Meath to progress due to Stephen Bray and Farrell putting in excellent performances.Expect to see Geraghty start off nicely and crumble in the second half.

Roscommon vs Kildare= Roscommon actually.Kildare not good in the qualifiers and have lost to the rossies in the championship 3 years ago.While its a long time,I think the stumbling block Kildare face will prevent them progressing.Expect a medium score tally.1-11 to 0-12

Westmeath vs Longford=Draw.I think Westmeaths hunger to avenge their loss will stop them being too complacent if they are in front but Longford will dig deep and score from dead balls

Armagh vs Derry=Armagh by 5 points.Derry are not physical enough for Armagh which will be the difference.

phil

Longford have always had a problem beating their neighbouring counties, but especially with Westmeath. They don't have a back that can contain Glennon. If they can deny the ball into him enough and out-score Westmeath then they will beat them. (Edit: ok, obviously out-scoring any team is the way to beat them, but eh, you get my drift... i.e. if they're on form up front)

It's a coin-toss though, the teams are well-matched with Longford having a stronger midfield.

I reckon the winners of Wexford / Laois will beat Fermanagh, but we'll see.

Phil.

mise_me_fein

Limerick v Louth - Hard to call this. I'm from Louth but I reckon it's 50/50 to decide the winner

Fermanagh v Wexford/Laois - Haven't seen enough of any of the teams to call this. Even though it is "up there", can someone tell me who have Fermanagh beaten "up there" in the past

Leitrim v Donegal - Donegal have been terrible this year and Leitrim have a decent record at Carrick on Shannon in the past two years. They don't really get beaten by more than 2 or 3 points by anyone. I'd say this could be a tough game for Donegal and there's a good chance they might lose unless they play very well.

Mayo v Cavan - Have to go for Mayo here. Unless Cavan score a load of goals Mayo should win handy enough. Cavan need to sort themselves out. They're not progressing at all.

Down v Meath - Meath win. Down are useless.

Roscommon v Kildare - 50/50 Too tough to call.

Westmeath v Longford - Same again, 50/50

Armagh v Derry - Derry are obviously not as good as people would have thought. Armagh to win this.

The Rooster

phil wrote:

I reckon the winners of Wexford / Laois will beat Fermanagh, but we'll see.

Its the losers that will play Fermanagh.

I hear Cavan beat Mayo in a challenge last week. So maybe its good news for Cavan and they're not as bad as everyone thinks. Although the bad news is that Mayo do know about it so won't underestimate them!

phil

The Rooster wrote:

Its the losers that will play Fermanagh.

Yeh, uh, brain slow this morning. Woopsy.

Phil.

kevmy

The Rooster wrote:

I hear Cavan beat Mayo in a challenge last week. So maybe its good news for Cavan and they're not as bad as everyone thinks. Although the bad news is that Mayo do know about it so won't underestimate them!

Yes I heard that too. Apparently Mayo treated it like a training session while the Cavan boys were fighting for there place in the Championship team. I've very little faith in challenge games they mean nothing.

It's a good draw for Mayo. They should win handy enough get a bit of confidence up and give some more time for players to recover from injury. After that we should hopefully draw a decent team (a Meath or an Armagh).

As for the rest:
Louth are the better players but Limerick may be the better team (even without the hurlers)

Fermanagh are a good team and are still underestimated. If they're playing Wexford as I expect they'll win

Poor auld Leitrim a tough draw because they've showed again for the fourth year running they are good in Carrick but Donegal probably have too much for them

Definitely Meath here I'm not impressed with Down

Kildare, the Rossies are poor and have a manager who is - how do I put this politely? - unsuited to their ways

I fancy Longford again. Westmeath have had a massive layoff and if the Longford forwards get going they should win

Armagh because Derry were shocking yesterday

cruiserweight

Venues and times have been announced for Tommy Murphy Cup and qualifiers

hoganstand.com wrote:

The times, dates and venues for the All-Ireland football qualifiers and Tommy Murphy Cup first round ties have been announced.

Five of the eight All-Ireland qualifiers will be have a 7pm throw-in on Saturday, July 7. The games between Fermanagh and the losers of next Sunday’s Leinster SFC semi-final between Laois and Wexford, and Armagh and Derry, will take place at 2pm and 4pm respectively on Sunday, July 8, while Roscommon will host Kildare at Dr Hyde Park at 3pm the previous day.

Both of the Sunday games could yet be played as a double-header at Clones as Enniskillen, which was out of commission during the National League due to upgrading work, may not be ready to host the Fermanagh v Laois/Wexford clash. Armagh’s meeting with Derry will definitely go ahead at Clones.

On the Saturday evening, Limerick will play Louth at the Gaelic Grounds, Castlebar will host the meeting of Mayo and Cavan, Newry is the venue for Down v Meath, Westmeath will have home advantage in Mullingar for their clash with Longford, while Leitrim will entertain Donegal in Carrick-on-Shannon.

In the Tommy Murphy Cup, Kilkenny face Antrim in a preliminary round tie next Saturday, June 30 at Nowlan Park, with the winners travelling to Ruislip to play London in the first round proper on July 7 at 3pm.

The remaining three first round fixtures will also be played on July 7 at 7pm. Carlow must travel to Dungarvan to face Waterford, Wicklow host Offaly in Aughrim and Tipperary take on Clare in Ardfinnan.

aidan24326

Limerick v Louth- hard one to call. Limerick were bad against Cork and Louth might sneak this one.

Fermanagh v Wexford/Laois- I expect it'll be Wexford and home advantage might just swing a close game Fermanagh's way (Clones would be almost a home venue)

Leitrim v Donegal- if Leitrim can play with same spirit as they showed against Galway and improve their shooting they must have a chance. Donegal will probably win in a similiar fashion to Galway, although Leitrim will surely win one of these games sooner or later.

Mayo v Cavan-Has to be Mayo. Probably the safest bet of the round.

Down v Meath Newry is worth a couple of points to Down but I think Meath will still edge it. Meath could still have a good summer if they can avoid Armagh in the next round.

Roscommon v Kildare- Both teams were very poor in losing to Meath and Sligo and it's hard to see either of them going very far. Another game where home advantage could be significant so I will go for the Rossies but not with any confidence.

Westmeath v Longford- Westmeath to exact revenge. Would be a real sickener for Longford to lose this one though.

Armagh v Derry- Can't see past Armagh. If Derry can't beat Monaghan then it's very unlikely that they will be good enough to beat an Armagh team who could still have a big say at the business end of the summer. Although this may look like the tie of the round on paper it will probably be a dour war of attrition.

Although there's no really exciting ties the games are fairly well balanced and at least 3 or 4 of them are very hard to call. You'd be doing very well to get all 8 predictions correct. Games like Westmeath-Longford and Limerick-Louth are a toss-up.

muincav

Dont write off Cavan yet lads, they normally put in one good match in a season and this could be the one...
even without Brady and Johnstone the wont lie down after all it will be revenge for the last time Mayo beat them in the qualifiers...
There is quite a few good players round the county who arent on the county panel because of political bulls**t, but now is the time to pick them, after all you have nothing to lose now-Keoghan should stop listening to those over-weight county officials who are all wearing new suits and not having ever kicked a ball in their life--time to do it right this time and bring in some real players with a passion for the game, and some pride back to Cavan football...:mad:

20 Times 20 Times

Sorry guys but what is this about the louth 5 , very hard to keep on top of it all whilst on the otherside of the globe.

Thanks
Stephen

EDIT :

Sorry just seen the thread now , teaches me to read into things more and not press the post button. So 3 players from mattock rangers , jp rooney is a loss the others not a huge one. As someone mentioned maybe it is about time that brian white did get his run out.

blackbelt

The following is from Hoganstand.com

John O’Mahony has been given a major boost ahead of the forthcoming qualifiers with the return to action of Ronan McGarrity, following a four month spell on the sidelines, during a challenge match against Cork at the weekend.

McGarrity’s last appearance in a green and red shirt came in a league match with Limerick back in March, after which he made public the news that he was about to undergo treatment for testicular cancer.

The imposing midfielder was involved in a little over twenty minutes of the action in Mayo’s two point win over Cork and although it will be a slow process returning to peak fitness, McGarrity’s return may be just the boost that Mayo need as they prepare to launch an attack on the qualifiers.

The Ballina Stephenites talisman was a central figure in Mayo’s venture to both the 2004 and 2006 All-Ireland finals and his return to football is a welcome sight for everybody involved with the game.

Mayo face Cavan in Castlebar in the first round of the qualifiers on Saturday week.



If he makes it for the Cavan game,they are in bigger trouble in my opinion.

kevmy

I'd hope he'd get a runout at least. Even if it's only in the last 10-15 mins cos every minute of Championship football brings a player on.

On a slightly worse note for Mayo doubts over Mac again apparently he's hurt his arm (which is sh1te cos he'd just got over a bad back injury).

Also Keith Higgins is out with a broken hand AFAIK

Johnno is still casting about for fullback and centreback in recent challenge games

Lemlin

The Rooster wrote:

Its the losers that will play Fermanagh.

I hear Cavan beat Mayo in a challenge last week. So maybe its good news for Cavan and they're not as bad as everyone thinks. Although the bad news is that Mayo do know about it so won't underestimate them!

Cavan beat Mayo by five points. That said, McDonald and Mortimer were held scoreless which doesn't happen alot.

I expect Mayo to winquite easily (although not by seven or eight points as some think) and I'm hoping it'll be the end of Keoghan. Cavan have decent young players coming through and I'd like to see a manager in charge who can make the most of them.

K-9

Limerick v Louth - Has to be Limerick because they usually don't concede much at the Gaelic Grounds and 6 have defected from Louth.

Fermanagh v Wexford/Laois - No matter who loses tho Laois would be tougher. Their work ethic is amazing, defensively tight and if their forwards are firing (which is rare!) are a match for anybody in Ireland.

Leitrim v Donegal - Have to fancy Donegal by 3/4. McFadden will be missed, has an eye for goal but its a game Devenney could shine in, i.e. no tight defending and no serious pressure. Be interesting who'll partner him in the full forward line. Though Leitrim where impressive against Galway I think the same problems will apply to them as the last day.

Mayo v Cavan - Even if Cavan where full strength I'd fancy Mayo, just too much talent.

Down v Meath - Really should be fancying Down at home for this. Why amn't I?

Roscommon v Kildare - I really don't know on this one!

Westmeath v Longford - same here! Love to see Longford get a run though. Brighten up the summer!

Armagh v Derry - Probably 2/4 points as usual and they'll make hard work of it but really, can anybody see them outside the Q/F's?

mise_me_fein

Louth hammered Limerick down there last year and most of the players missing don't start........its 7 btw not 6

opa01_2000

Mayo v Cavan - I don't think Mayo are any great shakes but Cavan are awful. It pains me to say it but I agree with Lemlin - I'd like to see Mayo win well so we see the end of Keoghan.

The man's a disaster. His mouthing off about the players going to Chicago is an attempt to cover up the lack of respect the players have for the management team. These players would never have gone to the US if they had any belief they could achieve anything under Keoghan. For him to then say they'd never play for Cavan again while he was in charge shows how little in charge he really is.

Come on Cavan County Board - admit your mistake and appoint somebody decent (even if it costs big bucks). Keoghan paying Grimley's salary is not enough of an excuse to appoint him.

blackbelt

What Cavan need or more to the point WHO Cavan really need is Tommy Carr.Tommy is a man who takes no crap and is a drill sergeant.No players going down with cramp,he'd have them proper fit and playing with passion.

It would be very interesting to see how we would fare with the current Dublin team.

kevmy

blackbelt wrote:

What Cavan need or more to the point WHO Cavan really need is Tommy Carr.Tommy is a man who takes no crap and is a drill sergeant.No players going down with cramp,he'd have them proper fit and playing with passion.

It would be very interesting to see how we would fare with the current Dublin team.

Don't know about that. People said the same thing about Roscommon. Now they've had Tommy Carr and John Maughan (another hard running army man) but they haven't done to much under them.
IMO teams like these need a manager who can get all player pulling together and playing for each other. Kind of like Offaly hurlers in the 90's. they done feck all training but they had talent and they played for each other.

Update for the Mayo game both Ciaran Mac (hamstring) and Keith Higgins (broken hand) are major, major doubts for the Cavan game. It's really sh1t luck on both of them. Mac's only back from a bad back injury and Keith injured his hand playing the hurling match against Kerry

nacho libre

Great new about McGarrity’s hopefully it will give renewed vigour to the team.

Lemlin

blackbelt wrote:

What Cavan need or more to the point WHO Cavan really need is Tommy Carr.Tommy is a man who takes no crap and is a drill sergeant.No players going down with cramp,he'd have them proper fit and playing with passion.

It would be very interesting to see how we would fare with the current Dublin team.

What is this fascination you have with Cavan players getting cramp? Cavan were one of the fittest teams in the league and it showed. They ran rings around Meath with only 14 men for 65 minutes in the first game.

Paul Grimley has them well trained. Its someone who has the tactical know how and their respect that they need.

I'm amazed that you presume to know what Cavan need. How many Cavan games have you seen this year? The solitary one that was on TV I'd imagine.

blackbelt

I'm amazed that you presume to know what Cavan need. How many Cavan games have you seen this year? The solitary one that was on TV I'd imagine.[/QUOTE]


Really?Well it doesn't take a brain-surgeon to realise that Tommy Carr is a great manager who doesn't take any BS.You only have to read Dessie Farrells autobiography to see how he would punish players for acting the maggot.He has no mercy.

Even if I saw one Cavan match or ten,that one game showed how unfit Cavan were in May so pray tell me how one of the fittest teams in the league (according to you) can go downhill to looking so bad you'd swear they were out on the town the night before?

It was Cavans tendency to go down with cramp that showed them up against Down.Had they not gone down with cramp,they probably should have beat Down.

hawker

Blackbelt,

Tommy Carr is not a great manager. A great trainer maybe but not a great manager.

blackbelt

Maybe you are right Hawker but I think Cavan would benefit from having him train them.Then they can look at running rings around the Down team.

smashey

Will any of these games be televised?

hawker

smashey wrote:

Will any of these games be televised?

Don't think so. Clare and Galway is on live Saturday evening.

paulocon

None of saturday's games are televised anyway...

Lemlin

blackbelt wrote:

I'm amazed that you presume to know what Cavan need. How many Cavan games have you seen this year? The solitary one that was on TV I'd imagine.

Really?Well it doesn't take a brain-surgeon to realise that Tommy Carr is a great manager who doesn't take any BS.You only have to read Dessie Farrells autobiography to see how he would punish players for acting the maggot.He has no mercy.

Even if I saw one Cavan match or ten,that one game showed how unfit Cavan were in May so pray tell me how one of the fittest teams in the league (according to you) can go downhill to looking so bad you'd swear they were out on the town the night before?

It was Cavans tendency to go down with cramp that showed them up against Down.Had they not gone down with cramp,they probably should have beat Down.

Tommy Carr is by no means a great manager. What exactly are you basing your opinion on here? Who gives a damn if he has no mercy, there's still no evidence that he's a great manager which I can think of.

What the hell are you talking about? I'm lost completely. Cavan have one of the best trainers of modern times, Paul Grimley, training them.

Have you any evidence of all this cramp? I didn't notice it. If anything Cavan had to chase the game and were fit to do just that and drew level.

blackbelt

I saw some Cavan players going down with cramp and some looked out of breath.I didn't think either team looked too fit at all.

My point about Tommy Carr is that he'd command respect and teach them discipline.Now you have two players scarpering off to America when Cavan need them most.I believe they would stay if they believed that the management was behind them 100% and thats something Carr instilled in his players.Not trying to plug a certain ex-Dublin players book but it was something most managers would walk away from.

Lemlin,I actually find it sad that you (I think) and some of your countymen want Cavan to be trounced by Mayo.I know you don't like Keoghan but you should be hoping that your county progress through the qualifiers into the latter stages of the AI.The management should be irrelevant and the players deserve more support.Afterall,they do train and give up a lot.

opa01_2000

blackbelt wrote:

Lemlin,I actually find it sad that you (I think) and some of your countymen want Cavan to be trounced by Mayo.I know you don't like Keoghan but you should be hoping that your county progress through the qualifiers into the latter stages of the AI.The management should be irrelevant and the players deserve more support.Afterall,they do train and give up a lot.

Blackbelt - I don't know about others but for me it's not a case of disliking Keoghan - I don't know the man.

It is just that I don't see any progress in the Cavan setup since he took over and to be honest I didn't expect any. In my opinion, there are only two paths which are needed to qualify a person to manage a county team. One is to follow the path of managing a club underage setup, progressing from U12, U14 through minor and U21 to senior club. After proving themselves to be outstanding at these levels (eg Brian McIver of Donegal) they are then possibly capable of making the step up to county level. The second path is to be a county player who has been involved in the county setup for a number of years, understanding what it takes (fitness levels, motivation etc) and learning from good county coaches (eg Martin McHugh and numerous others).

Donal Keoghan has neither. He was an average intermediate club player who got a couple of runs with the Cavan team. He has not progressed through the ranks - had one term with a very talented Cavan minor team which won nothing. He has also proved himself inept at handling the PR - criticising players in the media was not constructive and I think this whole episode demonstrated that he had lost the confidence of the players (otherwise they would not have left before the Qualifiers). Paul Grimley has the experience to be a big asset to Cavan, but not as a number two to someone who has lost all respect from the players and supporters. The only reason the County Board selected Keoghan was financial - it is rumoured that Keoghan is paying Grimley's salary for the 2 years and a couple of backhanders to the outgoing chairman is rumoured to have helped as well.

My hope is that Keoghan goes quickly before he does any more harm. I would not like to see Cavan trounced by anybody, much less by a county which has elected the likes of the crass Bev Flynn. But if this is what it takes for Cavan to find a decent manager and start to rebuild before too much more damage is done then so be it (in my opinion).

blackbelt

Fair points OPA01_2000,

I think Lemlin doesn't like him and doesn't give the current setup a chance of lasting the end of the season once they are knocked out.The two outcasts must have thought the current managment was a joke,so decided to scarper.I am pretty confident that their idea was the same as Lemlins and they believe that their intercounty days are not in jeopardy.

I just hope for their sake that if the current management is gone that the new management won't view their actions as disloyal to the Cavan team and let them play.

Lemlin

blackbelt wrote:

Fair points OPA01_2000,

I think Lemlin doesn't like him and doesn't give the current setup a chance of lasting the end of the season once they are knocked out.The two outcasts must have thought the current managment was a joke,so decided to scarper.I am pretty confident that their idea was the same as Lemlins and they believe that their intercounty days are not in jeopardy.

I just hope for their sake that if the current management is gone that the new management won't view their actions as disloyal to the Cavan team and let them play.

I'd prefer if you didn't make any presumptions about what I'm thinking, particularly as you get most things arseways anyway.

Paul Brady had told Keoghan early in the season that he was going if Cavan lost in the Championship as it was one of his last chances to go.

I'm not happy to see the two lads leave but I think they're not the be all and end all and the lads should be fit to play without them.

Nor will I take any pleasure in seeing Cavan trounced. If it got us a new management team and county board it would make me happy though.

blackbelt

Lemlin wrote:

I'd prefer if you didn't make any presumptions about what I'm thinking, particularly as you get most things arseways anyway.

I'm not happy to see the two lads leave but I think they're not the be all and end all and the lads should be fit to play without them.

Nor will I take any pleasure in seeing Cavan trounced. If it got us a new management team and county board it would make me happy though.

Ahem,you pointed this out earlier that you didn't like the current management.

Then you completely got it arseways at the end.What?....you don't want to see Cavan get trounced but the end result of a new manager and county board would make you happy?Does the end really justify the means?On one hand you don't want Cavan to be trounced but if the result of this is to get a new manager and county board (which would make you happy) how could you have one without the other?What exactly DO you want Lemlin?You can't have it both ways without being unhappy with the result or being unhappy witht the setup there.

Would you prefer to see Cavan progress with the current setup or would you rather see your team be knocked out altogether only in order to get a new manager and county board?..which isn't guaranteed by the way.That is incredibly short sighted.

cruiserweight

Well Cavan have named their team for the game this weekend

J Reilly; M Hannon, D Sheridan, K Fannin; R Flanagan, J Crowe, M Reilly; D McCabe, N Walsh; R Cullivan, A Forde, M McKeever; J O’Reilly, S Brady, G Pearson.

As for Wexford vs Fermanagh, David Murphy is definitely out, with Wallace and Bradley very doubtful. So that is the full back, centre back and midfielder out for Wexford. However, looks like Fermanagh have injury worries as well, apparently McGrath is out and Owens is doubtful

aidan24326

Blackbelt I'm not sure why you think Tommy Carr is such a great manager. I don't know what you're basing this on? I wouldn't rate him highly at all.

MementoMori

Limerick v Louth - Limerick willplay better thanthye did against a very good Cork team
Fermanagh v Wexford/Laois - Home draw favours them-Wexford v down aftercollapse to Laois- Also Laois destroyed them once hey started to play and Laois were v disappointed by their performance
Leitrim v Donegal - Saw both Leitrim's game and just not good enough. Sign of how poor Connacht football is this year that Galway had so much difficulty puting them away. London could almost have beaten Leitrim with a bit of luck and if they had avoi ed the sending off. Donegal at a canter
Mayo v Cavan - Mayo canter
Down v Meath - Undecided - Reckon this could be the tie of the round. The fact that Dublin should have lost to this young Meath team shows just how far off winning an AI they are. Just don't know about Down
Roscommon v Kildare - Don't know enough about this one
Westmeath v Longford - Don't know enough about this one
Armagh v Derry - Tight but Armagh

Kojak

I'm not sure if these should go in the Football predictions thread, but I thought I'd put them in here for now...

Limerick v Louth - Limerick by 3
Fermanagh v Wexford - Fermanagh by 4
Leitrim v Donegal - Donegal by 5
Mayo v Cavan - Mayo by 6
Down v Meath - Meath by 2
Roscommon v Kildare - Kildare by 4
Westmeath v Longford - Westmeath by 3
Armagh v Derry - Armagh by 5

squire1

Not bad Kojak. 6 out of 8.