SIS 'Live Show' prices....

Colonel Sanders

just having a look at todays results from ascot on the sportinglife website. Not for the first time the betting comments do not match what was relayed into the shop(s) where I watched the action.

Yeats 'opened 4/6. touched 8/11' and there were massive bets at 8/11 (inc. one of 110k). However the shop I was in (it was a lad brokes) never had a show of 8/11 on its boards.

Silkwood 'opened 5/1, touched 11/2'. Yet again no 11/2 was relayed in the betting shop where I watched this race (I watched this race in a pad dy pow ers).

I know that most office punters aren't very value or price conscious but that is not to say that they should be ripped off unashamedly like this. Surely the fact that SIS (a company owned by bookmakers) is responsible for relaying prices back to offices is a massive conflict of interests. I wonder would this type of carry on be tolerated in any other industry? Barney Curley goes on a similar rant in his book.

I'd be interested to hear other people's opinions on this.

TOm Kelly

Colonel - you can hear Barney online with his views - have not had a chance to listen to it yet - will do later -- Listen now online over here

Colonel Sanders

Nice one tom, I'll listen to it later.

TOm Kelly

just listened to his first two reports ... it's good stuff ... you do not hear it on the Morning Line ... and I hope it is the tip of the iceberg ... and I AM Very Aware that he himself has been a major abuser of punters ...
nonetheless it is an alternative view - and what he said about the Big Issue seller at the end of the second report hit me right in the face.

Colonel Sanders

It is refreshing to hear someone who will not close ranks the second there is something rotten. I agree with almost every word of any oh his attacks on the major bokmakers I have heard. However as you correctly correctly say he (and just about every other trainer) have abused punters with suspicious runs from horses who miraculously come back to form next time out and land big punts.

Collie D

The answer to the odds question is that the BHB have come up with a new way of devising SP's. This could also affect show prices. If they are saying that it touched 11/2 or 8/11 this was possibly a small number of on course bookies while the majority stayed at 4/6 or 5/1 making this the true price.

Colonel Sanders

8/11 was flashed up on both BBC and ATR. I posted the same thread on the betfair forum and plenty of people said that the bookmakers shop they watched it in did show 8/11. As i said 8/11 was laid to serious money, any punter who did not gt the chance to back Yeats at 8/11 was ripped off.

It happens all the time, how many times have people been racing where a horse is generally a certain price on course but this price is never relayed to the offices? I've brought this up before on here. Its a disgrace. Racing is bending over backwards to pander to the big three and doing everything it can to avoid industry SPs forgetting about the punter who pays the wages of most people working in racing (along with the owners of course).

TOm Kelly

Barney now has 5 reports posted: http://www.dafa.co.uk