Fila World Grappling Championships

SBG Ireland

let me just start by saying this MIGHT NOT happen...but i wanted to give people as much notice as possible so they can start getting in shape...i have

The FILA Grappling Committee have organised the first FILA World Grappling Championships to be held in Turkey 7-9 Sept 2007.

trials for irish team will be Sunday 22nd July 2007 at SBG Northside. weigh ins 10am and 11am start.

The format will be pool system allow the top two fighters from each weight to emerge and be in contention for the two slots available for each weigh division( please note you must have a valid Irish Passport to represent Ireland at this event) cost €30 to enter.

Men: 62 kg/ 70 kg/80 kg/ 92 kg/125 kg/
Women 48 kg/ 55 kg/63 kg/ 72 kg

The FILA Grappling Committee have stated that the trials will be the main way to qualify for the world event.

In view at the short timescales required to gain sponsorships ,once the costs of the event have been paid for and depending on the number of entries we aim to use the balance to offset the costs of the air tickets to the event.

Interested competitors should apply directly to john at ringoftruth@gmail.com to secure a place in the trials.

rules

as i get more info i'll add it to this thread. please let all grapplers you know know about this.

thanks

Kevinly_

Wow this could be really cool. Some rules from the website

Article 11 – Match qualification points

The classification points that grapplers receive for their matches will be used to determine their final ranking
and their team ranking in Dual Meet Competitions.

- Catch (6 points)
Referee stoppage by technical submission. A technical submission occurs when the referee upon observing
a submission attempt feels that the grappler caught in the submission hold will not be able to escape without
harm. In some cases tapping out may not be possible physically and the verbal submission command
“catch” shall be used to signify the tap out.

- Submission by Tap Out (6 points)
A grappler may physically signal his/her submission by either physically tapping the opponent or the mat with
either his/her hands or feet.

- Default (6 points)
A victory by default occurs when a grappler is unable to continue the match for any reason.

- Victory by disqualification (6 points)
A victory by disqualification occurs when a grappler is banned from the competition for any reason.

- Victory by forfeit (6 points)
A victory by forfeit occurs when a grappler fails to appear on the mat for the match.

- Victory by medical forfeit (6 points)
A medical forfeit occurs when a grappler cannot begin or complete a match due to physical injury or illness.

- Technical superiority (5 points)
A technical superiority occurs when a grappler has scored a 20-point advantage over his/her opponent.
When the technical superiority has been met, the winning grappler may choose to forgo the decision and
continue the match in order to go for a submission. If the grappler fails to submit his/her opponent, he/she
will be awarded the points for “major decision”.

- Major decision (4 points)
A major decision occurs when the margin of victory is 10 points or more

- Decision (3 points)
A decision occurs when the margin of victory is less than 10 points.

- Overtime loss (2 points)

- Decision Loss with at least 3 total points scored (1 point)
1 match classification point is awarded to the losing grappler’s team if the grappler scores at least 3 points in
a decision loss.

Article 7 – Weight loss

As far as weight reduction on the competition site is concerned, FILA has adopted the following rules: the practice of dehydration or excessive caloric restriction, the use of diuretics, emetics, laxatives, and self-induced vomiting are prohibited by FILA. Grapplers under 18 are prohibited from the on-site use of saunas/steam rooms or vapor-impermeable suits.

This is slightly stranger

The grapplers shall carry a handkerchief with them during the whole of the match and shall show it to the referee before the start of the match.

Kevinly_

And the rules for points

Article 26 – Scoring for actions and holds

- Takedown (2 points)
From a neutral position, a takedown occurs when a grappler forces his/her opponent’s supporting points
down on the mat and maintains control for at least 3 seconds. For takedowns occurring at the edge of the
mat, the wrestler must establish control and maintain one supporting point in bounds. If a grappler is
defending a submission, he/she cannot gain top “control” until he/she escapes the submission attempt and
maintains top control for the 3 second count.

- Throws (3 and 5 points)
3 point throws: Any hold in the neutral position or any ground position which throws the opponent over short
amplitude and lands him/her into an established danger position for at least 3 seconds.

5 point throws: Any hold from the neutral position or any ground position which throws the opponent over
high amplitude and lands him/her into an established danger position for at least 3 seconds.

- Dominant control positions (3,4 and 5 points)
The dominant control position progression will reset if the top wrestler loses dominant control and the bottom
wrestler establishes at least full locked or half guard for 3 seconds.

• Side Mount (3 points): When a grappler gains control by passing his/her opponent’s leg defenses
while keeping his/her opponent’s back to the mat for the control count of 3 seconds.

(4 points): When a grappler has his legs hooked beneath his/her opponent’s legs. His/her
• Full Mount
feet and heels must be under the back of his/her opponent’s legs for the control count of 3 seconds.

• Back Mount (5 points): When a grappler grapevines or hooks his legs inside of his/her opponent’s for
the control count of 3 seconds.

- Reversal/Sweep (2 points)
When the bottom wrestler escapes from an inferior bottom position and gains top control over his/her
opponent.

- Escape (1 point)
When the bottom wrestler escapes the top wrestler’s control and gets to his/her feet to face the opponent.

- Submission advantage mark
When a grappler makes a valid attempt at a submission maneuver and puts his/her opponent in danger, the
referee will signal a submission advantage mark. These marks will be tallied during the match to determine
the referee’s criteria in the case of an overtime match.

waterford mma

why do they have to carry a tissue?

Colm_OReilly

To wipe off blood.

dlofnep

i like the point system

waterford mma

mentioned it in training tonight and there's a few from waterford interested in this. will have exact figures next week and will send on the mail.

i assume the handkerchiefs are different colours and are tied to the ankle making it easier to keep score of points.

is the event no gi or gi?

dlofnep

i'd say no-gi, otherwise they'd say bjj comp :P

conor rowan

hey,
do you mind people entering for the craic, who wouldnt be interested in competing (ie unlikely to qualify ) or will this just make the event longer and more annoying to run for you?
cheers
conor

The Shane

Given the capital needed to fund this I'd say all entries are welcome as long as you are paying.

The more people that enter, the better a representation this will be of Ireland's grappling community.

I'm so very excited by this.

Shane, The

SBG Ireland

yes of course, the more the better

Kevinly_

That's what I like to hear

eoghan.geraghty

As colm says the handkerchief/tissue is for wiping blood off yourself, thus lessening time wasting if the need arises.
This is the same for freestyle or grecoroman competition.

Gorman

Are Fila compettitions same day weigh ins? I didn't realise that they were so anti-weight-cutting, are those rules strictly enforced?

Colm_OReilly

FILA actively discourages weight cutting in junior levels, but has a grim understanding that it is done at adult level.

John - are we required to wear singlets in this comp?

Gorman

Yeah, I'd love to see all tournaments do a weigh-in before the match, like the mundials I think, that way no one has to suffer a weight cut.

I think the grappling uniform are just simply a tight no sleeve T shirt and shorts

Valmont

eoghan.geraghty wrote:

As colm says the handkerchief/tissue is for wiping blood off yourself, thus lessening time wasting if the need arises.
This is the same for freestyle or grecoroman competition.

I never would have thought that people bleed enough in sub wrestling tournaments for the promoters to enforce a 'carry your own hanky' rule. What if your shorts don't have pockets?

waterford mma

Valmont wrote:

I never would have thought that people bleed enough in sub wrestling tournaments for the promoters to enforce a 'carry your own hanky' rule. What if your shorts don't have pockets?

you'd probably have to shove it in your groin guard . . .

better invest in some shorts with pockets

SBG Ireland

just spoke with Ebe Ghansah (Great Britain representative for the World Grappling Committee) and looks like we are 'go'

colm, mark can you email the guys on your NSC and MMA league databases to let them know about this. great opportunity for people to represent their country. be great to have a really good turn out for the irish trials.

i'm fairly sure the weigh ins are 'day before' - the trials will be same day weigh in but we'll give a 1kg allowance.

hopefully dont have to wear a singlet but will check all that.

more info to follow...

King.Penguin

is every country entitled to send a representative (or two) for each weight group? Or do they need to qualify after winning the irish trials?

Liam_B

Excellent Oppurtunity here! Should have a few Cork lads on the day!

mark.leonard

SBG Ireland wrote:

just spoke with Ebe Ghansah (Great Britain representative for the World Grappling Committee) and looks like we are 'go'

colm, mark can you email the guys on your NSC and MMA league databases to let them know about this. great opportunity for people to represent their country. be great to have a really good turn out for the irish trials.

Done!

SBG Ireland

thanks mark

SBG Ireland

this is all 100% now so get training!!

details as above - see you at the trials. we'll have an official FILA ref from the UK running the divisions.

to enter just send your name and weight to ringoftruth@gmail.com - u can pay on the day

The Shane

So who is going for what weight? I'm going to stick at sub 90kg, any of the Division of Death members from the NSC going to stick or you gonna cut to sub 80kg?

Shane, The

Clive

Clive, on target for under 80.

Kevinly_

I suppose the question on everyone's list is, is John Kavanagh competing and at what weight?

The Shane

I heard he's cutting to under 60kg

Clive

I heard he was bulking up to 90.

dlofnep

I heard he's got four ears, two regular ears and two that are kind of backup ears and a retractable tail so's he can leap up at you better and he's got a terrible fear of stamps... and instead of a mouth he's got four arses..

SBG Ireland

go to FILA Trials roll call...

bjj-fighter

NOO!! Im gonna be at the Gaeltacht for this.Well I would'nt of made it but it would still be cool

Mark Hamill

- Submission by Tap Out (6 points)
A grappler may physically signal his/her submission by either physically tapping the opponent or the mat with
either his/her hands or feet.

Does this rule mean that you could tap someone out, but still lose if they have more points than you? (unlikely to tap someone who's been doing significantly better positionally than you, but it's possible)

Kevinly_

It's my understanding that the 6 points you quote refer to the number of league points you receive after the bout (if you were in pools of 4/5 for example). This is entirely seperate to the number of points you receive for passing guard etc.

Presumably, the submission is like a judo ippon and nullifies any previous points collected for either combatant. So no you can't submit someone and then lose the match on points.

The Shane

If that Roll Call remains untouched - I'm certain of a place.

Shane, The

Liam_B

The Shane wrote:

If that Roll Call remains untouched - I'm certain of a place.

Shane, The

Nothing is certain in Life ,me boy!!

SBG Ireland

kevin is correct

any further questions please post them on ringoftruth.info forum....dont know how long more i can handle this forum with exciting threads on how to defeat a dog and effectiveness of palm striking the base of the nose....