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Small Print?

  • 18-06-2007 3:45pm
    #1
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    Everything today seems to have a document attached with lines and lines of obscure small print written by some solicitor/attorney/lawyer (Insurance policies, software user agreements, disclaimers, etc., etc.). By signing, clicking, whatever, "You agree to this and that..." and "hold them harmless in the event" that your computer blows up, a freak typhoon takes away your house, or an old spy satellite fails to completely burn up on reentry from space and flattens your car.

    Do you read the small print? Do you really understand it? Remember that during the Clinton sex scandal in the USA congressional and legal professionals argued over the meaning of the word "is" for 6 months?

    Comments?

    Do you read the small print? 47 votes

    Yes (and usually understand what I am agreeing to)
    0% 0 votes
    Yes (but don't usually understand all that I have agreed to)
    44% 21 votes
    No (doesn't most everyone agree without reading?)
    4% 2 votes
    No (and hold my breath that nothing bad happens!)
    34% 16 votes
    Other... (comments)
    17% 8 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭cance


    no,

    next question.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Never read them, although I should. I've been burnt badly on bad terms for bank loans because of not reading the dreaded small print.

    Timing of this thread makes me shudder, I just signed up to a new mobile phone company yesterday, and signed three forms without reading them. Whoops. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,289 ✭✭✭gucci


    NO!



    To be honest i didnt read most of the actual large print in your post





    gucci is not part of gucci ltd clothing and cannot be held responsibly for his actions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    After briefly consulting with my lawyers, no. :) That goes for the discalimer I clicked on to get online in this computor cafe, the disclaimer I clicked on to join boards.ie (I think!), and vast tracts of my old work contract/landlord agreement.

    To be honest, all the above have never had any significance for me in real terms. It's not like I was signing my life away in some Mephitopholean agreement.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Not normally, on my mortgage and immigration stuff I did*.




    *Batteries not included


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭imeatingchips


    Sure they even have small print on the radio now... blah mortgage blah loans blah etc. then squez into arsé end of the ad in about 1 second "regulatedbytheirishfinacialservicesregulatoryauthority".


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Only when it's something very important like financial stuff but even then I lose interest quite quickly. On EULA and the like never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    No sometimes option? No atari jaguar option??

    WTF is this :confused:

    You're slipping b!ue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    cance wrote:
    no,

    next question.:)

    Okay, okay, now question 2...

    Have you ever been sexually active with a goat?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    *post subject to change at any time for any reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    I bet nobody in the world has read the windows license agreement except the person who wrote it and a few laywers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Have you ever been sexually active with a goat?
    Yes, but then my hamster got jealous.


    The only small print I read is financial/insurance agreements or visa processing forms.
    Everything else, rarely if ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    jhegarty wrote:
    Possible penalties for early withdrawal.
    That's not what yore ma said last night... Badum, tish!
    MooseJam wrote:
    I bet nobody in the world has read the windows license agreement except the person who wrote it and a few laywers
    No real people no, but some tech journalists did spot some interesting changes in the EULA for Vista. http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=156 Seems now, even with a retail licence, you can only transfer it once.

    I never read small print, even for important things like Bank loans and credit cards etc. I should, but I just couldn't be bothered, and I probably wouldn't understand half the jargon they normally use anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭cance


    Okay, okay, now question 2...

    Have you ever been sexually active with a goat?

    a goat you say, do sheep count?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    The-Rigger wrote:
    No sometimes option? No atari jaguar option??

    WTF is this :confused:

    You're slipping b!ue.

    Aaaahhhhh, ye caught me Rig! Must out-on-the-town a bit too much lately, and coming to boards half asleep and hung over? Ha!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    cance wrote:
    a goat you say, do sheep count?

    Of course they do... as long as they belong on Gods green Earth!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    as a private individual, you are protected by the unfair terms act http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2000/en/si/0307.html which is part of european law.

    still a good idea to read them, to make sure you don't get caught though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    I never read any print, be it big or small.


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