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Hostel pt 2 (Anti european)

  • 18-06-2007 7:46am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭


    Hi,
    I just watched this movie last night and was wondering did anyone else feel
    an anti european vibe through out the movie?

    Quote from movie "For Christs sake dad don't worry about us, it's Prague - not the Ukraine"
    Also all Italian guys in the movie are portrayed as evil scumbags.
    Also i found a lot of stereo typical images of eastern europe. Examples the festival in Slovakia had no electricity, only candle light.

    From my point of view if I were American I would never travel to Europe.
    I know the movie is a shock / horror but besides that point, it sends a very anti european message.

    PS.
    My over all thoughts of the movie was poor. Plenty of blood and guts but absolutely no taught put into the script.
    Its no SAW thats for sure.


Comments

  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Not anti European so much but Anti-Eastern European/Former russion blocks :)

    Its the same ****e as the first one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Roth swears its anti-American. ie iggerant pricks.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    Yeah these movies really do portray Eastern European countries in a rather cynical way, but then again Americans are not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed and I would seriously doubt if they could even find Slovakia on a map, so I guess the joke is on them in a way?

    To follow up what Mike65 posted, Eli Roth actually did tell media (quoted below) that his movies are actually anti-American and that he is trying to highlight how narrow minded his few country men really are:
    I went to a press conference in Prague with journalists from the Czech Republic and Slovakia and I said, 'Guys this isn't a movie about Slovakia - it's a movie about America.' Americans don't know Slovakia exists, they think Eastern Europe is full of whores who want to sleep with Americans. In the movie, everything that the Americans think about Europe is not true, but the stereotypes of Americans in the film are true. Only 12 percent of Americans have a passport, they don't travel, they don't know about history. The one thing that is true is that Eastern European women really are that beautiful.

    Actually this reminds me of a typical dumb American 'comedy' a few years ago called Eurotrip. In one scene in the movie, the gimp-ass characters end up in Bratislava (which is the capital of Slovakia in any American are reading). The city resembles a bomb site, full of rubble & beggars on the street etc., it is also a place, according to the film, where you can apparently buy a huge banquet of food in the best restaurant for $1! Hilarious stuff :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    I saw this movie today and it was total crap,
    My major gripe with it is at the painting scene - we get full frontal male nudity but when the babe comes in to pose we don't even get a glimspe of her tits - wtf ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I thought it was good...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    Thought it was gas, although Roth is talking out of his hole about it being a highlight of American ignorance the same way he did in the first film. Ignorance me bollix, its not as if the girls are shown to be any thicker than other US horror movie victims.

    I was disappointed that the long haired blonde watching Pulp Fiction in the hostel wasnt even a part of the film, thought she would be a main one, we only got like 3 seconds of her and she was the finest thing in the film :confused:
    Was the Slovak girl the mob boss daughter? Also, once the surviving American girls payment had cleared they would have killed her, she was too high risk. And, although it only gave a very brief glimpse, when she is in your ones room looking at the photos, is there one with the current girl and the two from the previous film? Thought i spotted the blonde one anyway. re the first girl strung up, your one who killed her was a milf but jaysus, why did they show her feet, they were awful :D

    And finally, why didnt she carpet munch the Slovak ?

    Id recommend it, pretty brainless but much of the violence is laughable. Not as much tits as the first one mind. Also, we could do without uncomfortable social issue ads beforehand. Before it was shown there was one very long ad for a rape charity and another for the crisis pregnancy crowd ffs, if you had a girl with you you woudnt know where to look. Im going to the flicks to have a laugh, not get preached at or reminded of all the sh1t in the real world.


    Mind you, I saw two couples walk out midway and at the end most of the birds looked like they had seen a car accident, mightnt be the best first date film :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,894 ✭✭✭evad_lhorg


    well another thing eli roth said was "people still go to Texas" not like any massacres go scaring us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    theKED wrote:
    Hi,
    I just watched this movie last night and was wondering did anyone else feel
    an anti european vibe through out the movie?

    Quote from movie "For Christs sake dad don't worry about us, it's Prague - not the Ukraine"
    Also all Italian guys in the movie are portrayed as evil scumbags.
    Also i found a lot of stereo typical images of eastern europe. Examples the festival in Slovakia had no electricity, only candle light.

    From my point of view if I were American I would never travel to Europe.
    I know the movie is a shock / horror but besides that point, it sends a very anti european message.

    PS.
    My over all thoughts of the movie was poor. Plenty of blood and guts but absolutely no taught put into the script.
    Its no SAW thats for sure.

    In fairness, it's about Americans going to Europe and getting butchered.
    If it was in anyway anti European, I think that is what you should focus on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    Raekwon wrote:
    Actually this reminds me of a typical dumb American 'comedy' a few years ago called Eurotrip. In one scene in the movie, the gimp-ass characters end up in Bratislava (which is the capital of Slovakia in any American are reading). The city resembles a bomb site, full of rubble & beggars on the street etc., it is also a place, according to the film, where you can apparently buy a huge banquet of food in the best restaurant for $1! Hilarious stuff :rolleyes:
    Lets not forget that at the start of the movie when they were showing a map of Europe with each country coloured in with its flags colours Ireland was covered in the UK colours:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Money Shot


    It wouldn't bother me that it's 'anti' anything, it's not like it's supposed to be a social commentary or claiming to be a film with any sort of social conscience. Basically, the director needs to put his vision across, whatever we may think of it.
    I think you're second gripe would bother him more as you are calling the film a piece of crap - and I'm sure you'd get a lot of people agreeing with you on this one.

    Films would never get made if film makers concerned themselves with all the people, groups they could potentially offend. Borat offended loads of people, gay kisses offend some people, portraying any religious figure will definitely offend people, male nudity will offend, female nudity will offend (not me - ever), setting a horror anywhere will offend the people there - the residents of amityville were plagued for years with stupid sightsee'ers. The bloody 'Da Vinci' code offended catholics galore. The point i'm trying to make is you shouldn't get offended by throwaway films that don't try and say anything about anything really - and if they do, it probably wasn't meant.
    Sometimes you just give the film headlines and publicity that it doesn't deserve.


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