weird spot with 1010

phantom_lord

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($135.25)
Button ($98.50)
SB ($102.60)
Hero ($120.47)
UTG ($257.14)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T, T.
UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, SB raises to $10, Hero calls $9, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($30) 2, 8, 9(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($30) 2(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $17, SB raises to $58


utg is pretty bad, like 30/20 or something, other guy is tight tag, 15/13/4 ish.

I probably should have bet the flop. anyway utg tries to take down the pot assuming we've missed i guess, sb c/r. and I'm stuck in the middle. anyone like a call/shove?

valor

he is 15/5? just fold preflop and fold now, and dont bet the flop

phantom_lord

oops. no that was a mistake. 15/13

BuChan

i don't mind betting the flop, you could have the best hand. for you to be good utg has 33-77 and sb AK/AQ (probably clubs). could they both be bluffing, kind of a long shot, i'd fold.

phantom_lord

I can't see the tight guy checking two streets with a better hand, and the other guy could have anything. so TT is probably best right?

Chucky the tree

phantom_lord wrote:

I can't see the tight guy checking two streets with a better hand, and the other guy could have anything. so TT is probably best right?

What would he be 3-betting that T's beat though? Although the ways it's played
its hard to put him on a hand.

phantom_lord

aq/ak?

Chucky the tree

phantom_lord wrote:

aq/ak?

possibly, but why did he check the flop? The only reason i can think is he did it hoping to check raise the flop, but when everyone checks behind would you not lead the turn making sure that doesnt happen again?


Also, why did you check both streets? Would you not be better off betting the turn?

BigCityBanker

I would raise here for information. At least then you will know where u stand.

insafehands

I'd say he has a full-house or quads.

With the money you have in the pot it's a fold imo.

TacT

If you called the prf bet thinking your hand was more than likely best then you have to bet that flop. Checking there is a bit suicidal, especially if you have him on 2 overs. I hate a call on the turn because if he's bluffing (highly unlikely) then you are going to be pot commited on the river if he hits anything and you're not beating much that is willing to raise you on the turn apart from a stone cold bluff or fd.

If you're going to do anything on the turn at this stage it has to be a shove on a wing and a prayer but I really wouldn't like it.

phantom_lord

insafehands wrote:

I'd say he has a full-house or quads.

With the money you have in the pot it's a fold imo.

why would he check a set twice? plus why would be reraise 22/88/99 pf?

phantom_lord

BigCityBanker wrote:

I would raise here for information. At least then you will know where u stand.

stop posting nonsense in my threads plz. ty.

RasTa

Ladies ladies...

On the hand, tis a weird one alright. I don't get checking the flop in middle pos on that board. But if mr tight tag is checking the flop and check raising the turn i'll let the 10's go.

NickyOD

What I really want to know is why YOU checked this flop twice?

I shove there every time. He ain't check raising a house like he wants the guy to fold and he isn't checking an overpair twice. You are holding the current nuts. I'd assume he is just another twat who can't fold AK and shove.

RasTa

NickyOD wrote:

What I really want to know is why YOU checked this flop twice?

I shove there every time. He ain't check raising a house like he wants the guy to fold and he isn't checking an overpair twice. You are holding the current nut. I'd assume he is just another twat who can't fold AK and shove.

Who plays off 15/13/4 and is shoving with nothing? I highly doubt that.. I still think the checking is horrible, you playing the 10's to hit a set?