Embarrasing AEG problem.

Captain Chaos

Well long stroy short, I'm having the same problem with my MP7 that I have with my G36. I can't for the life of me get them to feed bbs without turning them upside down after every shot. My GBBs are fine and have no feeding problems.

I thought my G36 was faulty when I got it 3 months ago, still can't get it to fire and now my MP7 won't either. I got it last week and I have been trying and trying to get it to fire full auto but nothing comes out.

I don't think its my bbs as they are not cheap'os.

Any ideas.

Mark_Sc

are they wind up mags?

Captain Chaos

Nope, they are spring but there is no cut out like with the pistol mags.

When I put a mag in I can hear the first bb being chambered but after that nothing will come out unless I turn it upside down for each individual shot.

The G36 is the same, I have 1 windup mag and 10 spring mags for that, same story there.

ED E

1. is the magwell pushing the catch back realeasing the bbs?
2. Are the mags loose at all?
3. Did they ever work, feeding dube could be tight/have mold lines.

Mark_Sc

Odd...

kdouglas

if you pull the spring back in the mag and release it, does it slide forward smoothly without any friction? maybe a spray of some silicone oil in the mag will help

Captain Chaos

No, they never worked.
The JG G36 with all 11 mags, nada.
The TM MP7 with two mags, nada.

All the mags can't be knackered out of the box. (one would hope)
The mags are correctly pushed home in the mag wells of both AEGs.

I've taken my G36 to pieces and put it back together and its still the same as I got it.

The only thing linking the two AEGs and the mags is that I'm always using the same brand of bbs yet they work fine in my two GBBs so I don't think they are the issue.

ED E

Q: guys, misfuncioning tappet plate and nozzle???

Captain Chaos

kdouglas wrote:

if you pull the spring back in the mag and release it, does it slide forward smoothly without any friction? maybe a spray of some silicone oil in the mag will help

There is no way to pull the springs in the mags back unless I take them apart they are not like pistol spring mags.

frozenbullet

Is the spring in the mag keeping all of the bb's pushed up to the top of the mag after each shot is fired??

kdouglas

ah i see...
maybe try some silicone in them anyway...

one other thing, are you using a speedloader to load the mags or pushing them in by hand?

i had a similar problem with my glock aep, wouldnt feed properly unless i applied pressure to the bottom of the mag, turns out the speedloader was damaging the bb's as they were being loaded, now i hand load the mag and it works fine everytime

Lethal_Bullet: possible, but i dont think so in this case, simple way to check though, just leave the mag out and look into the loading tube as you fire the gun, you should see the nozzle move back and forth

Captain Chaos

frozenbullet wrote:

Is the spring in the mag keeping all of the bb's pushed up to the top of the mag after each shot is fired??

Yes, form what I can see and every time I take a mag out a few loose bbs fall out so they appear to be leaving the mag. I have sprayed both mag well with silicone and dry fired them for a bit, well thats all they ever do really.

frozenbullet

Strange... That happened to a friend of mine were the last two bb's in the mag would always fall out when you press the mag release

ED E

Loads of guns loose bbs when you take out the mag. Chaos, did you check the tappet?

CrazyRabbit

Since the bb's do actually move from the mag, into the AEG and fire (after you turn the AEG upside-down), then I'd say that their path is clear and that the bb's themselves are fine.

Sounds like perhaps a weak spring in the mag not pushing the bb's up into the magwell strongly enough.

Captain Chaos

Lethal_Bullet wrote:

Loads of guns loose bbs when you take out the mag. Chaos, did you check the tappet?

I did indeed, I took that as a good sign, not a fault with the AEG itself.

kdouglas

CrazyRabbit wrote:

Since the bb's do actually move from the mag, into the AEG and fire (after you turn the AEG upside-down), then I'd say that their path is clear and that the bb's themselves are fine.

Sounds like perhaps a weak spring in the mag not pushing the bb's up into the magwell strongly enough.

what are the odds of it being dodgy springs in two different aegs though?



OP: did you try loading them by hand instead of using speedloader (if you do use one)

Wossack

filling the mag with bbs, do they all fly out when you hold back the retaining catch on the mag?

very bizarre...

Mark_Sc

Have you tried half filling the mags?

liamo333

My guess yould be something wrong with either the tappet plate, the notch that pulls the tappet plate back or the hop up.

Do you know your way around a gearbox?

o1s1n

This is bizarre. You're having the exact same problem with two different AEGs from two different manufacturers. One of them being TM. The odds of the exact same problem being in both of them are tiny. The odds of every single one of the magazines being broken is tiny too.

The problem has to be something you're doing. Something that's happening with the bbs. I can't think what it could possible be though. The fact that bbs are dropping out when you release the magazine means that the mags are fine. The bbs arent falling out of the mags. They're falling out of the AEG. Happens to most guns.

Has someone who's familiar with AEGs had a look at them at all? Might be a good idea to bring them to HRTA. Could be something very simple.

Mark_Sc

As a matter of interest which one is the G36?

o1s1n

Mark_Sc wrote:

As a matter of interest which one is the G36?

Jing Gong (JG)

liamo333

Take a look into the hopup. Are there any bbs jammed in it?

kdouglas

bring it down to hrta tomorrow if you can, one of us should be able to figure it out for you

Fallschirmjager

you dont by any chance leave the mags for long periods loaded with bb's??

Harekin

This might sound a bit bizzare but are you loading enough bb's into it? The G36 never fires maybe the last 6-10bb's in it due to the plunger not being long enough to push them into the barrell. Try a full mag and see what happens. If not try releasing the catch on the mag with it full and see if they all fly out (as someone already suggested). The fact is as Oisin said it cant be two different guns and ALL your mags that are faulty.