History (H) - General Opinions

Haven't a Clue

Personally, I think it was a good paper without ever being great. Some absolutely mental questions, e.g. Wilfred Owen, but some nice ones like the Nazi one.

How'd ye fare on?

Corruptedmorals

It really catered for the topics our class did. Did Pearse, Nazis and Civil Rights. Lovely. Confident of B1/A2.

Mushy

Whats that I hear? Little stream like sound or something. Ah, its a piece of piss:D...sorry!

Nah, that'll come back to bite me inthe ass, but when I did my longest ever document q., 8 paragraphs in under 40 mins for two essays, and then a 9 paragrapher, theres no reson not to be confident. Maybe an A, definately should be a high B.

jaydigity

Lads, stop depressing me with this "it was a cinch" business!

Did anyone else notice that the 2006 paper actually came up again, esp in nation states Q?

Steve01

I'd say I got a high B since I fared very well on most questions. Though I'm a bit disappointed women in the workforce and the motor car didn't appear. I mean Wilfred Owen like... what were they at?

Haven't a Clue

jaydigity wrote:

Lads, stop depressing me with this "it was a cinch" business!

Did anyone else notice that the 2006 paper actually came up again, esp in nation states Q?

Yeah, and the GAA came up for ordinary again. Not nice.

snapjiggyfluff

anglo-irish question was good, nazi characteristics was good, GAA was good, sovietisation and berlin crisis was good, overall, good!! Not gonna make a prediction but I was happy!

jaydigity

Haven't a Clue wrote:

Yeah, and the GAA came up for ordinary again. Not nice.

Oooooh, that's seriously nasty.
It think, this being the 2nd yr of course and all, that they were just trying to set an example and stop people cutting down on course.Shame they've just f****d up my leaving cert in teh process though!

Mushy

Gaa up again...thank god the same couldnt be said for elections on HL.

Jaydigity, cant say it was bad of them to stop people cutting down on the course. Everyone has the same amount of study, its a large course, its what has to be done. IMO, it just seperated the people who knew the broad range well, from the people who didnt. There is always going to be one xam for people that'll appear to screw everyhting up, it wont happen. Never go by teachers predictions is the leson from history I think.

rjt

Nice paper for me, a lot of what I studied came up (Nazism, Franco-German tensions, Anglo-Irish relations), although as jaydigity said, some surprising overlap with last year. My exam technique was pretty poor, running out of time for my last question (Nazism), but a B is a strong possibility. could've done better, but given that this will possibly not be one of my six, I'm happy enough.

jaydigity

Mushy wrote:

Jaydigity, cant say it was bad of them to stop people cutting down on the course. Everyone has the same amount of study, its a large course, its what has to be done. IMO, it just seperated the people who knew the broad range well, from the people who didnt. There is always going to be one xam for people that'll appear to screw everyhting up, it wont happen. Never go by teachers predictions is the leson from history I think.

No, that's a fair point and I accept it, but given the difficulty of answering on Woodrow Wilson, it was quite cruel to put two of last years questions up, esp given the range of the course. It's v. valid though that ppl can't and shouldnt cut down the workload so radically

Mushy

Good point there too. Was very surprised to see Wilhelms navy policy again, especially as, just like you said, the broadness of it. Lucky it was one of the few things I did study from that topic, otherwise I'd prob be in the same boat as you. Woodrow is just a ***** to answer on

Agri_trust

Everything was grand except the nations states question, might as well be the same as last years question, because of that id say I got a Low B.

Taffy89

i thought it was such an obscure paper..like anglo-irish relations was such a long time span..basically dismantling the treaty AND neutrality

and neverin a million years did I think id see Hitlers domestic butwe've covered hitler very well I could cover it..

Was annoyed bout vatican two though..only learnt it this morning so i t was kinda thin..So i just hope it isn't marked up against girls in my class!

Haven't a Clue

**** it. I'm only after noticing that they asked for Anglo-Irish relations until '49 and not '39. That's a good few marks gone.

Mushy

They hardly deal with anglo-irish relations after the war, so that'd be 1945. So neutrality was my last paragraph on that. Kind of odd, cos the detail in the book just ceases to exist like WW2

JC 2K3

It wasn't BAD, but my course cutting down was punished(and rightly so, I admit).

Documents were píss, close to 100% for me I think.

Despite ALL the time and effort I put into learning the politics of the Pursuit of Sovereignty over the last week, putting emphasis on the Treaty and Sinn Féin, Patrick Pearse and Anglo-Irish relations came up. Now I actually had left out Anglo Irish Relations, so I did Pearse. I'm not sure how I fared there. Got about 8 paragraphs in, wrote about the political scene being very different before Patrick Pearse and the first wave of Republicansim emerged, then wrote about his cultural beliefs, then about his view on education and St. Endas and finally his belief in blood sacrifice and 1916. Wasn't too bad really.

Nation States question on Wilhelm 2 was fairly easy, but it was the one section I hardly went over. In fact, last night one of the only sections of politics in that book I left out was the Moroccan Crisises, which I therefore had to cram into one vague paragraph.... Was able to tie Bismarck and the Franco Prussian War into the Franco-German tensions bit though, which was nice. Only got like 7 paragraphs, but they were long ones and it was my longest essay.

D+D's question was the Nazis, which was easy, but at the same time I probably should have written more and expanded on propoganda. Still though, I had 9(short) paragraphs.

Hopefully I have my B.

Enemy Of Fate

My first thought when I saw the history paper: Huh the GAA came up, thats weird.Huh the irish seciton isn't so bad......OMG WTF THIS ISN'T WHAT WAS MEANT TO COME UP!!!I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THIS EUROPEAN HISTORY!!ARGHHHHH!!!

......After a few seconds of quiet reflection my thoughts had changed to: OMG WTF I CAN'T DO ANY OF THIS ****ING ****!!!!HOW THE **** AM I GOING TO GET MY B3 NOW?!??!?!?YOU ****ING BUNCH OF USELESS ****ING ****ERS!!!!

However after about 5 minutes of silent sobbing I realised that my tears weren't changing the paper into something better I decided i'd better get started.I foolishly wasted 45 minutes of the document question, which left me pushed for time later, but I feel I answered it quite well.I did the irish question bout Irish-Anglo treaty and comfortably wrote 3 full pages of my tiny, tiny writing.Only ended up writing bout a paragraph on the actual treaty dismantlement...now it was a half page paragraph but still.Anyways the question on the Nazi state went well enough.....just ended up writing random stuff bout the education changes and hitler youth, and then a paragraph on Gobbels and his crazy ass ideas, and then a paragraph on Leni Riefenstal and then a final paragraph on german rearmarment and stuff, and of course a decent conclusion....it may sound quite random....and it is.....but I still think it went quite well overall.

Anyways final question.....THE ****ING WESTERN ECONOMIES CAME UP, BUT IN A QUESTION I COULDN'T ANSWER!!!!ARGHHHH!!!MOST.FRUSTRATING.THING.EVER!!!....So I just did the sovietisation/berlin airlift question...and it went decently enough I got 6 decent paragraphs, but I was forced to use bullet points for the conclusion cause I was already 5 minutes after the time.Also how the **** did the sovietisation of Eastern Europe come up AGAIN?!?!?!?It came up last year, in the mocks, and this year!!!There are other ****ing aspects of the war you know!!

Agri_trust

Haven't a Clue wrote:

**** it. I'm only after noticing that they asked for Anglo-Irish relations until '49 and not '39. That's a good few marks gone.

Yeah a good few people in my class got caught with that to. I did the one on the premotion of cultural identity. Only wrote two sentances about the north, all I could remember was the orange order.

Corruptedmorals

A lot of people here seem annoyed with it, but for the stuff we convered, it's like they wrote the paper with us in mind.

sdanseo

I did OL and the GAA thing didn't bother me tbh. I didnt study at all for History and still found that a very easy question - others questions were tougher though.

JC 2K3

Enemy Of Fate wrote:

I did the irish question bout Irish-Anglo treaty and comfortably wrote 3 full pages of my tiny, tiny writing.Only ended up writing bout a paragraph on the actual treaty dismantlement...

Was the question not on Anglo-Irish relations from 1922-1949?

Enemy Of Fate

JC 2K3 wrote:

Was the question not on Anglo-Irish relations from 1922-1949?

Indeed it was.....and I believe that the dismantling of the treaty that bound the 2 countries is an extremely significant part of the anglo irish relations in that period.

JC 2K3

Yes, but you said you wrote about the treaty itself and only a paragraph on the dismantlement....

lilmizzme

overall it went ok, thought the contxtualisiation was a bit weird, but just tied it into politics..

Did anglo Irish relations, Nazis and Woodrow Wilson (pretty much a whole essay on the peace settlement!)

After the intitial panic of "oh god where is propaganda and women in ww1" it was ok...not gonna predict, it could have gone so much worse but it wasnt great either!

Enemy Of Fate

JC 2K3 wrote:

Yes, but you said you wrote about the treaty itself and only a paragraph on the dismantlement....

Ah so I did....jesus I really am wrecked.Well you know what I mean anyways.The whole relationship thing between the 2 of 'em.**** I need some coffee.

WildCardDoW

Went well, or it went bad. I went through the Anglo - Irish relations, doing a short introductory paragraph outlining my points, then started off with CnG, I basically said relations were amiable. Then moved onto DeValera and covered everything.

For Nation States, I sweated a bit, I had covered Wilhelm and Bismarck and that covered me, but I thought the question was awkward, I mean, it literally left you with, talks about these options and only these ones, I ended the essay with the point that, to fully understand the impact of these topics we must also understand other issues related at the time, such as Wilhelm's movement in the Boer war [blah blah blah], hopefully that counted. I also included a brief section in France - German relations regarding the Franco - Prussian war and French desire for revenge which ultimately culminated in World war One, and how the two countries were inv0olved in backing a country who had interests in the Balkans. I then ended with a whole, these issues served to create an "atmosphere of war" then finally my whole, other issues, comment.

I personally, didn't like the Nazi question but i did it anyway, for me it covered too many possible areas, to cover the characterisations was a bit annoying, as I had to interpret what I knew to suit my needs, organisation and aggression were my main characterisations. I said the foreign policy was aggressive as were his moves to remove opponents [Rohm, Communists] and sadly I struggled for time, eventually not actually getting to cover social and economic matters, but I got a good bit on the Foreign Policy.

Documents was OK, the 1,2,3 were simple, I mean, I really easy, as was the contextualisation, but again time hurt me, I think I spent too much time on Anglo-Irish relations.

There was a glare on the clock, and I couldn't see the dang time,I was annoying as this was the first time I hadn't bothered with a watch, and if i can't get proper timing on my essays, I waste time, oh well, could have been worse, saying that there was in each section, only one question I could do, could have attempted Russia's involvement in World war II, had an essay on that.

I am probably worrying because our teacher is a hard marker [I hope ] and removed marks if we forgot one single point in an essay, which I did in my D&D one, a few times, I didn't even mention autobahn or employment.

Be@st

I dropped down to Ordinary Level and I can say, indefinably got a high B, or a low A. I had a look at the 2006 papers and didn't even bother to look at the GAA, as there was "no chance in hell" it would show up again...

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I think that was a bit sly of the Exam Commission.

I had a look at the Honor's papers and found it didn't look as hard as I thought it would have.

WildCardDoW

EoF, hope you talked about the impact the Treaty had on affairs, however minimal, rathar than the story, you would get more marks for that at least.

Enemy Of Fate

WildCardDoW wrote:

EoF, hope you talked about the impact the Treaty had on affairs, however minimal, rathar than the story, you would get more marks for that at least.

Eh you know I probably didn't.**** it all.Hopefully I stuck something like it somewhere.''This made the british mad''.Yeah probably was more in keeping with the question.

Arctic_Monkeh

Sweet Holy, Gaa came up again in Ord, imagine 1885 elections......:eek: :eek: :eek:

AdMMM

I don't think it's surprising that the same things came up again. The pattern has been emerging that they repeat questions whenever a new sylabus is being examined. The most recent example I can think of Biology and then English.

Arctic_Monkeh

yeah i suppose...But really, did ANYONE study the 1885 elections? Or did i get off lightly?

WildCardDoW

We all got off lightly.

Arctic_Monkeh

Ha definitely!

Although , if it did come up, 50/100 could have been possible

Mushy

I lightly studied the Elections, just incase. I was prepared for it if it was to come up anyway.

Arctic_Monkeh

i didnt kno anything on it....so glad the gaa came up. Lock out wouldnt have been bad either.

On the 40 marker i mainly wrote about poltics and IRB influence. It was basically the mocks Q jus worded differently

Enemy Of Fate

Arctic_Monkeh wrote:

yeah i suppose...But really, did ANYONE study the 1885 elections? Or did i get off lightly?

I knew Gladstone became prime minister on the 30th of January 1886....and he introduced the first home rule bill on the 6th of april....and I knew what the bill was.......and that was it.

Arctic_Monkeh

Haha Wouldve been tough getting 40 on that alone!

How did everyone fare on the gaa anyway?

Enemy Of Fate

Arctic_Monkeh wrote:

Haha Wouldve been tough getting 40 on that alone!

How did everyone fare on the gaa anyway?

Meh.Decently enough.Bout a page on a half and I focused almost solely on 3 main difficulties:

(1)Oppositon from unionists
(2)Michael Cusack
(3)IRB influence

Also threw something bout the parnellite split into the last paragraph.It wasn't a great answer......but i'd still be hoping for at least 30 out of the 40 marks.

JC 2K3

Opposition from unionists???

Mine was essentially just about how the IRB fúcked them up.

Mushy

Mainly about how the GAA was messed about by the IRB. Then explained how they dealt with it. Also included the Parnell affair case in the last paragraph. with a bit of luck, maybe 40/40 for it. 5 paragraphs in total, just about 2 pages.

For the rest of it, it was mainly ok. Apart from that character of Parnell one. Did nothing on it really, wanted to tear into the contextualisation q. Nice, easy to read documents, questions good apart from the third section of it.

Arctic_Monkeh

Yep pretty much same....jus waffled how you could tell he was nationalist really.Ha

As for the contextualisation, mainly IRB influence, inner quarrellings(thurles, Fitzgerald/Fr.Scanlon) and Parnellite split. Mentioned failed american invasion also...

Smegball

I thought it was a decent enough paper, although the Irish section was a bit rough. Doubt I will get many marks there.
The Nazi question was lovely though, I would be aiming for around 80-85 marks in that section.
The American section was nice aswell, although I had to waffle alot with very basic information about the Montgomery Bus Boycott and Martin Luther King's influence and the increasing popularity of Malcolm X and the "Black Panthers"

Along with the documents and research project I would be aiming for a C3 really.

Arctic_Monkeh

Yeah RSR helps alot i think...Imagine instead doing 5 q's in 3h 40m:eek:

Smegball

Arctic_Monkeh wrote:

Yeah RSR helps alot i think...Imagine instead doing 5 q's in 3h 40m:eek:

Yeah, I think without the research topic there would have been a distinct possibility of a fail for me anyways.

Arctic_Monkeh

yeah haha.

But a good Report and a good docs q almost get you a pass. pick up marks on tthe others and you got your honour!

Smegball

Yeah a C grade would be ideal for me now, I wanted a B but my lack of study has ruled that out anyways!

looloo27

was abdoult;y gutted with history. hoping 4 an a1 will only get a c now. I didnt have wilhelm learned i no it was stupid but it was the only case study i had left out. i felt that they did everything possible to try to catch us out. I was such a mess in the exam that i spent an hour on q1

Steve01

looloo27 wrote:

I didnt have wilhelm learned i no it was stupid but it was the only case study i had left out. i felt that they did everything possible to try to catch us out.

Practically every case study that came up last year was up again this year. What makes this worse is the general lack of choice on most questions. Whoever put the paper together didn't do themselves any favours by putting on those manky Woodrow Wilson and Wilfred Owen questions.
I'd say I did fairly well but I agree with Sean Delap about the paper being unfair. The Department seem to love stirring up shít

Outcast

The American question on Montgomery was a gem! I thought Ireland was a bit tough, was counting on something more relevant to the Treaty. I did Anglo-Irish relations though, which was fine. Horrible datespan but it meant I didn't have to know too much about anything. D&D Nazi question was lovely but The Jarrow March? Our teacher wrote a sample essay on that and we all laughed at her. It became a running joke that the Dept. could be mean enough to put it on. Gave me a laugh in my exam! I was hoping for GAA on docs so it was grand. Talked about IRB, the split etc.