Macau €1500 hand second nuts

nicnicnic

Playing about 10,000 chips after comming back from the dead. Blinds are 100/200.

A five way limped pot brought a forth spade on the river on an unpaired checked all the way board. I was BB and after Tom Hanlen checked I bet 450 into the 1000 pot with the king of spades. There’s two callers back to tom who makes it 3000.

AKQJ10

i fold here as if i rarely think he's raising with the queen. would he do this as a total bluff presuming the worst you call with is the king

bops

pot 1k

check
you bet 450 with K
call - no A
call - no A
C/R to 3k

so call is 2,550 for 4,900 ~ 2/1

would he lead the turn with a draw for the nuts?
would he check the nuts hoping for a bet?
would he assume you are week, chancing your arm as per usual, just like the two callers assumed?

me? easy call - if he has it fair play - it looks like a good spot to bluff to me! it wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't even got a spade!

cardshark202

bops you are a bigger station then me!! I fold this quick.

bops

lol im no station!! - i'd look directly into his soul and call (and hope to fk he hasn't got it)

mdwexford

bops wrote:

pot 1k

check
you bet 450 with K
call - no A
call - no A
C/R to 3k

so call is 2,550 for 4,900 ~ 2/1

would he lead the turn with a draw for the nuts?
would he check the nuts hoping for a bet?
would he assume you are week, chancing your arm as per usual, just like the two callers assumed?

me? easy call - if he has it fair play - it looks like a good spot to bluff to me! it wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't even got a spade!

what do you do if one of the flat callers shove??

what do you do on the turn if one of them flat calls the 3k as well??

nicnicnic

mdwexford wrote:

what do you do if one of the flat callers shove??

what do you do on the turn if one of them flat calls the 3k as well??

all cards are out the flat callers cant have me beat

mdwexford

nicnicnic wrote:

all cards are out the flat callers cant have me beat

pmsl, half asleep when i read it

Heisenberg.

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Norwich Fan Rob

he almost never doesnt have the ace here........

phantom_lord

such an easy fold.

Aussie Lad

3k to pay with 10 k left.

Very strong raise, I have to give him credit. Fold.

Unless you are on tilt, then reraise into the nuts. Thats what I do sometimes. But when I think about it later on with no chips left. I should have folded.

Fold.

rogue trader

I've seen Tom do this with air before.
Also, the raise is too big. If he has the Ace of spades, surely he wants to keep everyone in.
This is a case, IMO, of him smelling weakness.

I'd call.

Jam-Fly

What is villain's stack size?

I likely call here. It looks alot like a good time to make a squeeze play here. Once villain knows you don't have the As he can make this play with ATC. If the flat callers are huge calling stations I would be more likely to lay down (this also assumes that villain knows this, and that villain isn't stupid enough to bluff the calling stations).

Also, any other reads on villain?

nicnicnic

I thought long and hard before I called, he mucked. The overriding element in my decision was the fact the he is predominantly a Omaha player and I figured an Omaha player can bluff in this spot a lot more then a hold-em player.

Jam-Fly

nicnicnic wrote:

I thought long and hard before I called, he mucked. The overriding element in my decision was the fact the he is predominantly a Omaha player and I figured an Omaha player can bluff in this spot a lot more then a hold-em player.

He could've been bluffing with the loan ace of spades too and forgot that you don't need two spades in ur hole cards to make a flush.