can online games be hacked part 2

HeeHawsCantona

Below is a quote from DEV on the last thread I started which for some reason was closed. I find it very disturbing. I have won alot of money playing poker but have more or less ceased online cash since this incident a couple of months back and now just play sats and the million on stars. Does anyone know anymore about this and how can I find out if my laptop has been hacked?

"The game cant be hacked but your computer potentially can. If someone installs a remote access watcher (something like a root kit built into a video file you are enticed to watch) then they could potentially see your hand.

Please note:
1. This is technically very trickey but I've not doubt such a thing can and has been done.

2. While it seems unlucky if you run into him, the fact is that anyone who has hacked your machine can see where you are and what you are playing. Its easy then to get a seat at your table.

3. This is very unlikely but if you are concerned then go to "www.avast.com" and download their free virus checker and protection program.

This sort of cheating is going to be a lot worse then bots if we arent careful, but if you want my honest opinion, I would be betting that you havent been hacked, just unlucky.

DeV.

ps: I hate the 650 bet in the first one"


for the last 2 months or so the following message is on my desktop - I just thought it was a con of some sort to buy some spyware.



Warning! Spyware threat detected! System error

Your computer has several fatal errors due to spyware activity.
Your IP address is XXXXXXX and via this address an unauthorized
access was gained by another computer. It is strictly recommeded
to install an anti-virus software to close all security breaches.


Your IP address: XXXXXXX
They know you're using: Internet Explorer
Your computer is: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GHz, 510.21 MB of RAM

Risk status for further investigation: VERY HIGH RISK


To protect your computer from spyware attacks - click here
To erase the tracks of your internet activity - click here

breadmonkey

in before lock...

valor

online poker is rigged

BigCityBanker

Stop looking at those smutty sites and you wont be getting hacked with Spyware!!

Ah no seriously - there was a hell of a lot of coincidence on your last post - an uncomfortable amount! With the above message it apears that there is some spyware or virus/bug of some description on your laptop. Its best to give it some young PC whizzkid to sort for you. Probably cost you €100 but it will be cheap in the scheme of things.

EDIT Valor/Breadmonkey - guys HHC is one of the better poker players in this country and would imo be a welcome contributor to boards. He has aired certain concerns and it doesnt help to have him ridiculed, poked or made fun of. Dev has given a plausable (if unlikely) scenario which the OP has now tried to gain further info on. If you are unable to help perhaps its best to read other threads?

This question may be better served to one of the geek forums but there are a fair amount of those here also.

Rb

<Snip> Not helpful. -- DeV.

HeeHawsCantona

sorry MSDOS, how do i get there?

Rb

HeeHawsCantona wrote:

sorry MSDOS, how do i get there?

Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> "Command Prompt"

HeeHawsCantona

thanks

kensutz

This is going to be a very interesting topic

DeadParrot

LOL, i dont think format c:\ works anymore

Google the following

Spybot Search & Destroy
Spyware Blaster
Adaware
Avg anti virus

all are free to download
install them, download the latest updates and run them.

A firewall is a also a good idea....zonealarm is free.
Id reccomend you download HiJack this and get someone who knows what they are doing to have a look at the logfile. That should sort out whatever is lurking on your pc.

Iexplorer is pants, use firefox/opera instead. You'll have a lot less problems.
Anything else I suggest you try the security forums for help.

jimmii

In the first hand you posted, surely if they were cheating they would have raised the river so you would fold and no one would ever know he only had king high.

DeadParrot

of course if all that fails a nice strong magnet will 'suck out' any virii on your hard drive

Rb

DeadParrot wrote:

LOL, i dont think format c:\ works anymore

Google the following

Spybot Search & Destroy
Spyware Blaster
Adaware
Avg anti virus

all are free to download
install them, download the latest updates and run them.

A firewall is a also a good idea....zonealarm is free.
Id reccomend you download HiJack this and get someone who knows what they are doing to have a look at the logfile. That should sort out whatever is lurking on your pc.

Iexplorer is pants, use firefox/opera instead. You'll have a lot less problems.
Anything else I suggest you try the security forums for help.

Indeed. run them from Safe Mode (hit F8 afaik when the computers starting up) and choose "Safe Mode", when they're done restart and go back to normal mode.
If its windows XP, you'll have to turn off system restore to do it though.

Chucky the tree

whatever you do, dont do what RB_ie says.

Rb

Chucky the tree wrote:

whatever you do, dont do what RB_ie says.

C_T_C: Will it, or will it not, remove the virii from his computer? Just answer yes or no.

HeeHawsCantona

jimmii wrote:

In the first hand you posted, surely if they were cheating they would have raised the river so you would fold and no one would ever know he only had king high.

I think I was more or less putting him all in - I could be completely wrong but something felt wrong - I was about to leave the 2nd time until he arrived on the scene - obviously I'm thinking complete fish. The betting sequence on hand 2 just disturbs me at that level

sikes

there was a post on 2+2 on how to secure your comp. i had it bookmarked in my last laptop, but i dont have it here. I posted it in BBV, i think it was for Ste maybe he has the link still.

Rb

sikes wrote:

there was a post on 2+2 on how to secure your comp. i had it bookmarked in my last laptop, but i dont have it here. I posted it in BBV, i think it was for Ste maybe he has the link still.

This the one?

Chucky the tree

rb_ie wrote:

C_T_C: Will it, or will it not, remove the virii from his computer? Just answer yes or no.

Yes.


but there are other ways to remove without wiping your comp.

bops

rb_ie i believe that you are about to be banned for a long time gl with that

bops

dont do what he says ffs - it will wipe all your c drive

sikes

bops wrote:

dont do what he says ffs - it will wipe all your c drive

it looks like it is too late.

bops

that's just some really mean sh1t in fairness

BigCityBanker

bops wrote:

dont do what he says ffs - it will wipe all your c drive

BOPS are you for real? Is that the consequence of what rb_ie has suggested he do?

If so its fùcking scandalous.

HeeHawsCantona

lol i went to do it but am playing a sat and table popped up as i was about to - thanks lads. I'm seriously not liking this.

opr

HeeHawsCantona wrote:

lol i went to do it but am playing a sat and table popped up as i was about to - thanks lads. I'm seriously not liking this.

Well as bops said do not attempt anything that rb_ie suggested. Read the 2+2 thread that was posted.

Opr

Reddish

I lived in America for a year and a half.

While there, I had a problem with something on my computer. The problem isnt relevant.

When phoning verizon to mend the problem they sent me to a certain online page which gave them access to my screen. They could see exactly what I could see, move my cursor and preform tasks just as if it was me doing it.

While he did this I just sat on the phone in shock. :eek:

Note: All he had to do was gain my permission verbaly. Meaning anyone could do it without permission.

bops

BigCityBanker wrote:

BOPS are you for real? Is that the consequence of what rb_ie has suggested he do?

If so its fùcking scandalous.

Format should display: WARNING, ALL DATA ON
NON-REMOVABLE DISK DRIVE C: WILL BE LOST!
Proceed with Format (Y/N)? Type

phantom_lord

rb_ie wrote:

Good luck.

lol! you're a sick man!

HeeHawsCantona

Thanks for all your help guys - I'm finished playing cash online - thats just sick - I had asked alot of people about this but everyone was telling me I was mad that it was impossible

David Michael

BigCityBanker wrote:

BOPS are you for real? Is that the consequence of what rb_ie has suggested he do?

If so its fùcking scandalous.

Indeed. Format C (root drive) = Full wipe of said C drive.

It's the type of advice you would expect on IRC.

Rb

bops wrote:

rb_ie i believe that you are about to be banned for a long time gl with that

What would I be banned for?
In fairness, he asked how to get rid of spyware/virii, I told him a way to. That way also comes with a warning (as you've posted) so...?

phantom_lord wrote:

lol! you're a sick man!

HeeHawsCantona: Check out this site. It'll teach you step by step how to get rid of any nasty programs on your computer. The one linked is one I had on my own and therefore had it bookmarked, but I'm sure you can find your way around it for yourself. After having done so, follow the advice in the above linked 2+2 thread on securing your computer.

empirix

rb_ie wrote:

<Snip> Not helpful. -- DeV.

A prime example why i bring my mp3 player to the table these days - another know it all poker clown!

bops

It really isn't funny - if you're not tech-minded you could easily follow sick fcuks instructions - i'm really pissed at this and i'm far from finished with it too

i don't give a fk what you think but you should never be permitted to post here again at the very least - do you understand how much damage you could cause by typing sh1t like that?? - now just to HeeHaw, but other people may have seen it and done it

fcuking disgraceful

request for ban - fk sending pm's

bops

rb_ie wrote:

What would I be banned for?
In fairness, he asked how to get rid of spyware/virii, I told him a way to. That way also comes with a warning (as you've posted) so...?

smartass pr1ck - warning my hole (just type Y) - ban him or ban me end of

DeVore

rb_ie is very close to finding himself booted. If you hadnt posted a decent link to 2+2 I doubt I'd be seeing things in this light at all in fact. Not funny, dont repeat it.

DeV.

fabsoul

posted on 2+2

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4837360&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1&nt=6

DeVore

I'm pretty annoyed about it too Bops but I'm going to choose a finger wagging and "Do NOT repeat" warning rather then bannage.
RB_IE, if Heehaw had actually screwed his machine because of your "advice" I for one would be expecting you to buy him a new machine. Fnckin irresponsible thing to post imho.

This thread locked and I'm starting a proper one on the topic.

DeV.